Snoopy11 5,714 #101 Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Evguy said: I’m liking the engine test stand Hahahahahahahahaha... Yeah. I had it on a wooden bench... but I found out that it literally JUMPS up and down... so... more "cushion" was needed... 51 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Now ya need to pop it on a tractor and see how it goes. Uhhhh... well... I don't know which one I would use to do that... maybe the 800... Maybe that will be my "winter" project, Eric... P.S. the power is back on here... after over 12 hours... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evguy 556 #102 Posted September 3, 2022 Yeah. I had it on a wooden bench... but I found out that it literally JUMPS up and down... so... more "cushion" was needed... I C clamped one to a push cart, you do what you have to.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #103 Posted September 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Evguy said: I C clamped one to a push cart, you do what you have to.. Normally I c-clamp them to the work bench... but today I didn't and... to be quite honest... I have no idea why... Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #104 Posted September 5, 2022 I got a snorkel made yesterday. I bought this snorkel a long time ago, thinking I might use it on one of my other machines. I decided to go ahead and use it here... since I had it. It has one hell of a filter in that housing . It isn't totally unlikely that I may change to a performance filter at some point... but in the meantime... I think this turned out pretty darn good. Pretty solid quality build here... I'm pretty happy with it. Regulator should be here tomorrow... then I think that is it... besides maybe a new starter solenoid just for giggles... Don 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #105 Posted September 5, 2022 Sigh... I couldn't help myself... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #106 Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: Sigh... I couldn't help myself... Make sure you know what you've got with that solenoid before you wire it! Some of them are NOT ground and voltage on the two small terminals! If that's the one you bought, just do not use the I terminal. As opposed to this type: But you probably already know this? Edited September 5, 2022 by Jeff-C175 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #107 Posted September 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said: If that's the one you bought, just do not use the I terminal. Yessir... that's it... Should be the same as the solenoid on the 416-8, I think... Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #108 Posted September 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: Should be the same as the solenoid on the 416-8, I think... I don't. Or, should I say that I would not take that for granted. Check it out before using it! You CAN use it provided you wire it correctly. I think the AM430 may in fact have a FIFTH terminal on the rear, and I'm not sure what that is for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 1,369 #109 Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Snoopy11 said: I think this turned out pretty darn good. Pretty solid quality build here... I'm pretty happy with it. That's a great save right there and a bit of a story to go along with it 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatingman 971 #110 Posted September 6, 2022 Nice work. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #111 Posted September 6, 2022 17 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said: I don't. Or, should I say that I would not take that for granted. Check it out before using it! You CAN use it provided you wire it correctly. I think the AM430 may in fact have a FIFTH terminal on the rear, and I'm not sure what that is for. The terminal on the back is ground instead of the mountinng tab. "I" terminal is the only one that won't be used in my case, as you suggested above since +power to coil is run through separate switch. Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #112 Posted September 6, 2022 56 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: terminal on the back is ground I thought that might be the case. "Back in the day" that " I " terminal on the solenoid tripped up many a "grease monkey" that didn't understand electricity. They would get a car in that would start when you turned the key to "START", but as soon as you let go of the key, the engine would die. The purpose of that I terminal was to bypass the coil ballast resistor during starting for a hotter spark. If that "R" in the scribble below failed open, the coil would get power only when the solenoid was engaged during starting. Once you let go of the key, no more power to the coil, no spark, engine died. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #113 Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said: The purpose of that I terminal was to bypass the coil ballast resistor during starting for a hotter spark. I wish you would have told me that when I was working on my 416-8... Someone told me that the "I" terminal was for ground... so that is what I hooked it up as. I'll bet you can guess what happened when I went to start it... along with a good bit of I guess I must have stopped it and removed the ground wire before damage was done though... 'cause it still works... Don Edited September 6, 2022 by Snoopy11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #114 Posted September 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said: Someone told me that the "I" terminal was for ground That's happened to LOTS of folks! Because some solenoids DO use that for the ground return. Hopefully all you did was blow the main fuse... or if not fused, melted the wire. Pretty sure the solenoid went " BRRRAAAPPP " for a second or two. BUT, as soon as you let go of the key it should have been OK after you remove that ground connection. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #115 Posted September 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Jeff-C175 said: or if not fused, melted the wire Yah... it melted a bit of wire... which was simply heat shrunk back to the way it was prior... I have learned 1 thing about electricity... NEVER hook up ANY grounds until you are 100% SURE that everything is connected properly... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #116 Posted September 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said: SURE that everything is connected properly Like this? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #117 Posted September 6, 2022 Although the 13.8 V on a tractor likely won't, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #118 Posted September 6, 2022 Package from IST showed up today... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #119 Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) The Tecumseh's servant brought it over to the barn so I could do some testing with the shop battery. @Evguy... this is the "other" ZT I told you about... Got the regulator hooked up. Works like a charm. 100_2131.MOV Don Edited September 6, 2022 by Snoopy11 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,233 #120 Posted September 7, 2022 21 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said: Like this? Egad! That is a terrifying termination setup. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #121 Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Handy Don said: Egad! That is a terrifying termination setup. Didja notice what those 'fuses' actually are? The bent wires touching each other appear to be... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,233 #122 Posted September 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said: Didja notice what those 'fuses' actually are? The bent wires touching each other appear to be... I did see that. But the wire-wrapped terminal connectors were the first thing to catch my eye. Is there some history with that image? My first guess would be some location where power is being stolen from a distribution line using an ad hoc wiring setup. Makes one wonder if that setup was done while the feeds were hot. Two phase--220 or 440? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #123 Posted September 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Handy Don said: I did see that. But the wire-wrapped terminal connectors were the first thing to catch my eye. Is there some history with that image? My first guess would be some location where power is being stolen from a distribution line using an ad hoc wiring setup. Makes one wonder if that setup was done while the feeds were hot. Two phase--220 or 440? I believe that's somewhere in India. As I recall, it's 440V. That spark you see... if you look closely you can see a hand with a pair of wire cutters at the lower left. I think he's 'adjusting' or 'replacing' the "fuse". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,233 #124 Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Jeff-C175 said: I believe that's somewhere in India. As I recall, it's 440V. That spark you see... if you look closely you can see a hand with a pair of wire cutters at the lower left. I think he's 'adjusting' or 'replacing' the "fuse". "OK, let's turn on the juice. Got your lineman's pliers ready? Stand back, everyone!" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,202 #125 Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Handy Don said: Stand back, everyone!" "Here... hold my Apong!" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
