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How difficult is it to replace the the brake lining? Found mine on the lawn after I mowed HAHAHA

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Handy Don

Not difficult to replace either the liner or the complete brake band.

@rmaynard sells liners.

@76c12091520h has NOS and refurbished bands

Other vendors in "Classifieds/Vendors" topics may have them as well

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GreenMntRanger
30 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

Not difficult to replace either the liner or the complete brake band.

@rmaynard sells liners.

@76c12091520h has NOS and refurbished bands

Other vendors in "Classifieds/Vendors" topics may have them as well

Sorry if this is a foolish question, but hat would be the easiest way to access the brake assembly? 

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gwest_ca

Just remove the left rear wheel and tire. 

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GreenMntRanger
12 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

Just remove the left rear wheel and tire. 

Thanks you

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ri702bill
5 hours ago, GreenMntRanger said:

How difficult is it to replace the the brake lining? Found mine on the lawn after I mowed HAHAHA

Definetly check the condition of the steel band the brake material was bonded to. Mine on the C81, when I got it, looked like swiss cheese. Bit the bullet and got a new one from my Toro dealer - $79 as I recall, better part of 10 years ago... do it once, do it to last....

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rmaynard

Last that I checked, the 9353 brake band assembly was over $100.00. That's quite the bullet to bite.

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peter lena

@GreenMntRanger  have any conveyor belt material ?  lasts forever , cut it with tin snips , use a silicone glue on inside of band to hold material , once it takes a set , you are good , pete

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peter lena

@GreenMntRanger  often refer to a different source / idea for a repair , coming to the end of my stash of goodies , as a millwright , was regularly put into a , we need this fixed right now ,situation , so thats how I  refer to a possible fix. obviousely , there is an exact part for your problem ,  what ever is easiest  and suits you , is also in that repair , pete    

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Snoopy11
19 hours ago, peter lena said:

use a silicone glue on inside of band to hold material

Absolutely.

 

I did an experiment with my brake band. I cleaned it VERY WELL... and since I didn't have any silicone... I used a hot glue gun with Gorilla glue sticks... :P

 

Gorilla Dual-Temp Mini Hot Glue Gun | Grand & Toy

Believe it or not, that worked excellently for me. I would do that again in a heartbeat, rather than wait for regular messy silicone caulk to dry... :banana-dance:

 

I don't know what @rmaynard thinks about that... but I swear by it... :D

 

Don

 

 

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peter lena

@Snoopy11  snoop ,was going to suggest you thinking outside the box ,but in your case , you are so far  outside , we would have to send out a search team !  good idea . pete

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rmaynard
3 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

I don't know what @rmaynard thinks about that... but I swear by it... :D

I think that unless you get the lining on and press it tightly to the band before the glue dries, it could end up lumpy or uneven. Then, the very nature of hot glue is that it melts. Brakes can  get very hot when used heavily. Heat will re-melt the glue and the lining could come loose.

 

Just my :twocents-twocents: worth.

 

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Snoopy11
3 hours ago, peter lena said:

in your case , you are so far  outside , we would have to send out a search team

Well... so far... it has held up well.

 

If anything negative happens... I will come back into this thread or make another thread about my idea... and let everyone know...

 

@rmaynard... In my case, my glue gun can get REALLY hot, so I have a good amount of time to put the band on before it dries... which helped keep it from getting lumpy!

 

Don

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Jeff-C175
4 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

a good amount of time

 

Use a heat gun to get the steel band and the lining gudenhot before gluing and you buy yourself even more time.

 

My automatic manchines rarely get the pedal pushed down to stop.  Maybe a manual would need more... 

I think the chance of them getting hot enough to re-melt the glue would be rather slim ?

 

 

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Handy Don
19 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said:

My automatic manchines rarely get the pedal pushed down to stop.  Maybe a manual would need more... 

I think the chance of them getting hot enough to re-melt the glue would be rather slim ?

To me, it isn't the possibility of melting.The versions of the glue you get at the hardware/big box/hobby/craft stores just don't adhere well to metallic surfaces, especially smooth ones. Of course, it is possible to get industrial hot glues but by then Bob's recommended system is just as easy.

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Snoopy11
27 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said:

I think the chance of them getting hot enough to re-melt the glue would be rather slim ?

I'll put it this way...

 

I have put it through various testing... basically braking the hell out of it... downhill, pulling hundreds of pounds of dirt downhill holding the brake... without issue.

 

But my testing continues just the same.

 

Don

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Snoopy11

@GreenMntRanger... can we see any pictures of your brake lining?

 

You may not need to replace it... may just need to re-glue it back in...

 

Don

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GreenMntRanger
18 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

@GreenMntRanger... can we see any pictures of your brake lining?

 

You may not need to replace it... may just need to re-glue it back in...

 

Don

It's for the most part intact but super brittle. Knowing the former owner, it is safe to say it's OEM circa 1987

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Snoopy11
4 minutes ago, GreenMntRanger said:

super brittle

Yeppers... that's gonna need a replacement...

 

Don

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