855 clutch pivot arm

[daveoman1966 3,752]

FOUND IT...  !!!  I knew I had the CLUTCH PIVOT ARM somewhere in my shop.  Cleaned off the workbench today and... guess what...  FOUND IT.    Part # 4899.  Anyone want this for $25...SHIPPED .  

[WHX?? 48,828]

I have already sent @Jiminoh one Dave. 

Weren't you gonna send me some hubs for repair Jim?

[Jiminoh 27]

Yes I certinly am,I just left you a voice mail.they are packaged and ready to ship.i will drop them un the mail sat. Morning.also have a few pics I would like to share.

[Jiminoh 27]

The front wheels are wrong for this tractor,they have the wrong hub spaceing.i have a set from a B-80 they are getting power coated .this is as far as im going with it this season.i dont have heat in my shop yet.i think my pai ting season  has passed till next year

[WHX?? 48,828]

Looking good so far 

PMed you my address for the hubs. At a tractor show this weekend but get right at them next week and get them right out.

Hopefully you can get a roller then. 

[Jiminoh 27]

Dose anyone know where to look for a nylon sterring column bushing or maybe even a bronze or Cooper one?

[Achto 27,597]

Tractor Supply or a hardware store like Ace for example.

[WHX?? 48,828]

Yes we call them the Hillman drawers at most hardware stores. The bigger the store the better selection. Might find them in bronze or nylon. 3/4 ID x 7/8 OD. Look for one with a flange and the lock collar under dash will hold it in place. 

[WHX?? 48,828]

All set @Jiminoh and back in the mail today and yes I got your payment thank you.

Should be ready for install but a couple of pointers.

Clean the paint from the bores and use a tad bit of anti seize. 

Use new woodruffs ... #15 regardless of how the old ones look.

Again can be had your friendly Ace is the place for these. I usually throw a pair in but out of stock at this time till next McMaster order. 

Some guys like to put a VERY slight flat spot on the axles where the set screws set but not absolutely nesscesary. Use the new sets and jam nuts provided.  Good luck and any ? or uncertainties...Ask! 

This hub was not that bad but when in doubt re-key. 

Edited September 14, 2022 by WHX??

[pfrederi 17,741]

Be very cautious about tightening the jam nut if you do not have a flat surface.   I used alloy steel set screws  and torqued down the jam nut on a hub I had drilled and tapped. Snapped the set screw off flush with the hub.  Next owner can figure out how to fix that...

[WHX?? 48,828]

Note the flat spot I ground on Paul. I provide hardened sets and one would be hard pressed to snap one off. Some do claim that the jam nut has a tendency to "lift" the set off the axles.

 

Now I don't know about that that but momma always said is check all for tightness after run in and regularly thereafter.  

Edited September 14, 2022 by WHX??

[WHX?? 48,828]

The other thing I noticed Jim is that one side was in contact with the outboard tranny housing which wears down on the hub and the tranny axle stub due to tight cornering combined with hub walking. 

When installing the hub keep in mine ther is some end play in axles so keep the hub backed off so ther is a small clearance between the hub and tranny stud. 

I often use a nylon thrust washer in this area. Again in the Hillman drawers 1" x 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 for a 855. 

Edited September 14, 2022 by WHX??

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

1 hour ago, WHX?? said:

Some do claim that the jam nut has a tendency to "lift" the set off the axles.

 

I think if you torque the set screw to 30 ft lb, then loosen it and torque it again, and then tighten the jam nut that it can't possibly 'lift' the set screw.  You would have to bend the threads in order to do that!

 

 

[WHX?? 48,828]

The problem Jeff is to torque every thing might be beyond the hobbyist tool cabinet.  

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

48 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

The problem Jeff is to torque every thing might be beyond the hobbyist tool cabinet.  

 

My A-hole neighbor came over while I was putting a VW engine together and using my torque wrench.  He fancies himself a world class mechanic. 

 

He said; "REAL mechanics don't use torque wrenches"

 

He doesn't own a torque wrench.  He's always coming over asking for hardware... because he broke a bolt, and knows I keep a pretty good stock of hardware.

 

I should say to him; "REAL mechanics don't break as many bolts as you do Popeye!"

 

 

[squonk 41,145]

9 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

My A-hole neighbor came over while I was putting a VW engine together and using my torque wrench.  He fancies himself a world class mechanic. 

 

He said; "REAL mechanics don't use torque wrenches"

 

He doesn't own a torque wrench.  He's always coming over asking for hardware... because he broke a bolt, and knows I keep a pretty good stock of hardware.

 

I should say to him; "REAL mechanics don't break as many bolts as you do Popeye!"

 

 

Worked with a guy like that. He kept bending pipe wrench handles. 

[pfrederi 17,741]

13 hours ago, WHX?? said:

Note the flat spot I ground on Paul. I provide hardened sets and one would be hard pressed to snap one off. Some do claim that the jam nut has a tendency to "lift" the set off the axles.

 

Now I don't know about that that but momma always said is check all for tightness after run in and regularly thereafter.  

 My broken set screw happened several years ago the first time I tried addinga second set screw to a hub.  Been grinding a flat spot ever since

[Jiminoh 27]

Thanks everyone there is some really good tipe here. Will follow with picks later

[WHX?? 48,828]

Just make sure you let me know them hubs...  I trust the the USPS...NOT 

[Jiminoh 27]

My dear mr. Parsons you did a marvelous job on thease hubs.and a rather good job of matching the paint too.by the way the color i'm using is rustolium regal red,if you were wondering. Thank you so much.

[Jiminoh 27]

 Another problem i have Discovered is a lot of play Due to excessive wear in the pin bore and pin.i thought i would  have the axle bored to 1" and have it bushed back to 3/4" and make a new pin for it.what do you guys think?

[wallfish 17,011]

19 minutes ago, Jiminoh said:

 Another problem i have Discovered is a lot of play Due to excessive wear in the pin bore and pin.i thought i would  have the axle bored to 1" and have it bushed back to 3/4" and make a new pin for it.what do you guys think?

How about bore to 7/8" and bush back to 3/4" ?

I've done a few, pin hole in axle, the pin holes in the frame, for spindles and numerous other things. A bushing doesn't provide any strength or support so removing as less cast material as needed is my thought process.

 

Here's a simple tool to do stuff yourself. Pay attention, keep it straight, some long holes need to be done from both sides. You want the bushing to fit tight in the hole. This will/could cause the bushing ID to shrink ever so slightly. That indicates a nice tight fit. Fine grit Dremel sander is what I use to fit the pins. 

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[WHX?? 48,828]

5 hours ago, Jiminoh said:

 mr. Parsons you did a marvelous job on thease hubs

Thank you sir. Looks like you got your self a roller. I used Regal to touch them up.

I like 'Fish's idea on the pin. @Achtolikes to make the pins & had I known coulda threw one in. 

[pfrederi 17,741]

On the older style frames it seems that the the front frame hole wears rather than the back one.  After I drilled the axle pivot to 7/8 and bushed back to 3/4 I drilled a 3/4 hole in a scrap piece lines it up with a new slightly longer pin and welded it in place...

[Jiminoh 27]

I really like that fish!and l much rather do it myself anyhow.the front hole repair too.if I didnt know better id swear that Sharp machine on the bence was also an 855.going to be a really nice unit when your done.thanks for the great advise