RustyGold 88 #1 Posted August 4, 2022 Just picked up a workhorse 700 , I noticed the belt slipping to the point where I can’t climb even a mild hill . I replaced it with the correct 70” OEM belt & still the same problem . Do you think a new pulley tension spring would fix the problem or go with a shorter belt ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,747 #2 Posted August 4, 2022 Input pulley on the transaxle looks a bit small. Wonder if a previous owner changed it out to get more speed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terry M-(Moderator) 2,176 #3 Posted August 5, 2022 Check both engine and trans pulley keys and make sure the engine is mounted correctly in its proper position. It’s hard to see in the pic…but if that’s a Tecumseh it should be on a mounting adapter between the engine and the frame for things to be spaced out correctly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RustyGold 88 #4 Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Terry M said: Check both engine and trans pulley keys and make sure the engine is mounted correctly in its proper position. It’s hard to see in the pic…but if that’s a Tecumseh it should be on a mounting adapter between the engine and the frame for things to be spaced out correctly. It’s a tecumseh Model HM80. It’s Not the original tecumseh but it does appear to be mounted on the adapter plate in the correct position . Edited August 5, 2022 by RustyGold 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill in VA 1,452 #5 Posted August 5, 2022 Keep in mind the pull back spring .... does it have good tension or is it the correct spring? On some of the Wheel Horses that I would take to the tractor pull I used a hook type tool and turned the spring just a little bit tighter to keep good tension on the belt. Opps did I just admit to doing that at a tractor pull? Here is a picture of the spring tool and this is commercially made but I can't remember by what tool company. It works great because it is thin enough to fit by transmission case. Wild Bill in Richmond VA 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,313 #6 Posted August 5, 2022 Belt looks like it's setting pretty deep in that engine pulley. If that's a new belt, the pulley is either worn out or the wrong width pulley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,078 #7 Posted August 5, 2022 You can easily verify if the spring tension is the problem by hooking the pedal with your toe and pulling back on it to add tension when it starts slipping. If it stops slipping check the spring If it's still slipping going up the hill while pulling on the pedal then it's probably something else. Are you sure it's the belt that's slipping? Typically there would be evidence of black powder around the pulley that the belt is slipping on, engine or trans. Could it be a broken pulley key or rear hub key that"s the problem? If you put straight chalk mark lines across the pulley and shafts they will not be lined up straight after it slips if that's the problem. If none of the above as everyone mentioned so far check the connecting roll pin on the lever on the other side where the pedal linkage and brake band linkage connects. The roll pin connects the lever to the shaft that controls the idler pulley for the belt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,719 #8 Posted August 5, 2022 @RustyGold how is the related linkage / movement points for lubrication? would also check out that idler pulley , known for binding failures , make the rust run out , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,629 #9 Posted August 5, 2022 11 hours ago, squonk said: Belt looks like it's setting pretty deep in that engine pulley. looks like a 1/2" belt on a 5/8" pulley. Probably bottomed out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,313 #10 Posted August 5, 2022 Looks like a single shaft snowblower engine with snowblower engine pullies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RustyGold 88 #11 Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: looks like a 1/2" belt on a 5/8" pulley. Probably bottomed out. The belt appears to fit ok width wise in the pulley. I sourced the oem drive pulley , it’s p/n 1621, which matches mine . I checked all the pulley key ways & hub is fine . I checked the tension spring by pulling back on the pedal w No improvement. The belt def has a good amount of slack . I’m betting that 1-2” less on the belt length is going to solve my issue. I’ll keep you posted Edited August 5, 2022 by RustyGold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RustyGold 88 #12 Posted August 7, 2022 So I used a 1 inch shorter belt. It now climbs hills with no issues. I’m guessing whomever installed that replacement motor, was slightly off from the original. Problem solved ! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick3478 429 #13 Posted August 7, 2022 More likely the small pulley on the transaxle, maybe the same person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites