Wheel Horse Raider 12 6-Speed

[Monya1528 3]

Hello - this is my first post and I’m hoping you can help point me in the right direction. I am looking to sell my dad’s wheel horse tractor along with some accessories. I saw another post on here that mentioned the serial number tells you what year it was made so I’ll be going over to the house to find out that info after work today. This is one of two that are at the house and it is the older of the two. I’m guessing it’s from the late 60s early 70s. It hasn’t been used in a few years so I’m not 100% sure if it runs. Tried starting it and nothing happened but it probably doesn’t have gas or a working battery. The mower deck was used last summer and the snowblower attachment was used this past winter. It’s been a few years for the rototiller (sp?) but seems to be in working order. My dad passed back in January and he was a master at keeping things like this running and in working order. The other tractor (not pictured) is slightly newer and we used it just this spring to roll the lawn. I have no ability to fix up machinery of any kind and would like these to go to people who would want to restore them to their former glory. I will be listing them to sell in the next day or two. Need someone local to come pick them up - not shipping these things. I considered putting them on Facebook marketplace but this seemed like a better place to start. Any advice? Thank you! 

[Pullstart 62,916]

@rjg854 @squonk @D_Mac any of y’all local?

 

@Monya1528 sorry to hear of your dad’s passing!  The grey engine tells me it was a Kohler factory replacement at some point.  Unfortunately, that style ignition is quite pricey to repair if it breaks.  I have purchased similar tractors (only) for $100-150.  Not running is quite a hurtin’ on the value.  The tiller tine condition and shape will tell it’s overall usage and value.  Once the tines wear down, it looses value quick as once again, $$ to replace.  A deck is in the couple hundred range and it seems that snowblower values consistently drop.  I’d suggest IN MY AREA that might be a $400-450 package.  
 

I hope this helps to understand what a potential buyer is up against.

[squonk 41,159]

My phone isn't showing location? 

[Pullstart 62,916]

3 minutes ago, squonk said:

My phone isn't showing location? 

Clarence, NY

[squonk 41,159]

Bout 90 miles away. Show some pictures of the deck and tiller for a better idea on value. You could also become a member of the Red Square Facebook page. I've had good luck selling there.

 

[D_Mac 8,623]

Yes he is closer to Buffalo. I am in Rochester and @squonk and @rjg854are further east then me. Now that the 856 is done i could be looking for a new project. I don't do the Facebook thing.

[Mikey the Monkey 697]

@Monya1528...I'm in Albion. I'd be happy to get the raider going for you. Then you can cruise with it and think of  Dear ol Dad. 

 

[Monya1528 3]

@squonk I tried posting more pics with the original post but it wouldn’t let me. I’ll try to add more. Thanks. 

[Monya1528 3]

@Pullstart Thank you. I haven't investigated the reason behind why it won't start - I just know that it doesn't. Could be as simple as a dead battery or no gas. I added some more pictures in another comment, but thank you for the possible pricing information. 

[Pullstart 62,916]

That tiller looks kind of beat.  The tines should have a flat bar to till the earth, instead of sharp knives.

[Monya1528 3]

@Pullstart So I feel like the tines always looked like that. I searched and found a pic of a new one - very similar in shape. Is my dad’s old? Sure but the tines aren’t bent from usage. 

[Pullstart 62,916]

It could have been the angle that you took the picture too, Hopefully they are longer after the bend.  I drew what I think it should look like but again it could be the angle.

 

 

[squonk 41,159]

Interesting thing about tillers. I see 50 year old walk behind tillers with good tines on them and every WH tiller I see is whupped! 

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

@squonk probably because the walk behinds are junk and the WH ones actually got used?  

[squonk 41,159]

5 hours ago, sjoemie himself said:

@squonk probably because the walk behinds are junk and the WH ones actually got used?  

Horse Hockey. I know of several old tillers from the 60's that lasted over 50 years. My Grandfather bought a Wizard tiller in 62 and had 2 gardens and it was used constantly. My brother got it when my Grandfather died in 88 and used it until 2010 until the handles finally gave out. Engine was original and so were the tines. And in good shape too. Still see the old front tine tillers sitting in gardens on occasion.

Edited August 5, 2022 by squonk

[Pullstart 62,916]

6 hours ago, squonk said:

Horse Hockey. I know of several old tillers from the 60's that lasted over 50 years. My Grandfather bought a Wizard tiller in 62 and had 2 gardens and it was used constantly. My brother got it when my Grandfather died in 88 and used it until 2010 until the handles finally gave out. Engine was original and so were the tines. And in good shape too. Still see the old front tine tillers sitting in gardens on occasion.

Anyone ever figured if walk behind tines could be swapped onto a  tiller?

[Snoopy11 5,714]

6 hours ago, squonk said:

I know of several old tillers from the 60's that lasted over 50 years.

Yes indeed. I have several oldies myself... they never seem to get tired.

 

One of them has a replacement engine... but other than that... they are still pulling...

 

Don