CountryRock 199 #1 Posted August 3, 2022 As the title says, I've discovered that the drive belt on the 416H is rubbing on itself. It is a Rotary replacement for Toro 114895, 5/8x83. What would be causing this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,203 #2 Posted August 3, 2022 It's about an inch too long. Labeled wrong??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CountryRock 199 #3 Posted August 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: It's about an inch too long. Labeled wrong??? No idea. I wish I still had the old belt to compare to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,203 #4 Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, CountryRock said: No idea. I wish I still had the old belt to compare to. Take it to your local TSC and compare it to a Huskee 5/8X83 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,634 #5 Posted August 3, 2022 @CountryRock looks like the belt is upside down ? think the bottom of the belt , flat run should be on the top of the big idler pulley ? original routing would never have them that close , also note the dry , bushing end of the lift arm assembly . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CountryRock 199 #6 Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, peter lena said: @CountryRock looks like the belt is upside down ? think the bottom of the belt , flat run should be on the top of the big idler pulley ? original routing would never have them that close , also note the dry , bushing end of the lift arm assembly . Not sure how it could be upside down. That idler is putting downward tension on the belt and I don't think it can go any other way. I'm confused. Why couldn't Toro put something in the manual about the belt? Would've made things a lot easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,145 #7 Posted August 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, CountryRock said: Not sure how it could be upside down. That idler is putting downward tension on the belt and I don't think it can go any other way. I'm confused. Why couldn't Toro put something in the manual about the belt? Would've made things a lot easier. Looks like it's on right to me. Put a line on the outside of the belt with a marker and measure the outside circumference with a tape measure to see if the belt is indeed 83" long. How about a picture of the entire belt installed .Maybe some changed a pulley at some point. An 8 spd engine pulley is smaller. If someone did a swap at some point, it would change the belt length. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,634 #8 Posted August 3, 2022 @CountryRock , possibly that belt length is the issue , sorry to add to the confusion ,hope you find it , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CountryRock 199 #9 Posted August 9, 2022 I put an OEM 114895 belt on and it seems to be better. I measured the width of each belt and the OEM is 15 to 20 thousandths wider than the Rotary at the widest point. Hopefully that was the only issue. I didn't see anything else out of the ordinary when I had the wheel off. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites