DeepH2O 66 #1 Posted August 1, 2022 So, after some investigation, I found that I needed the 111199 bearings instead of the 1533. I noticed on Lowell’s website, under description of the 1533 it says to take the black cover off them. Under description of 111199, it doesn’t say to remove it. I’m guessing that you’d want cover off for same reason as he explains under 1533: “NOTE: Before installing remove and discard the black seals by popping them off, remove the grease by wiping it off. Removing the black seals and grease will allow the oil to flow through the bearing and reach the outer needle bearing.” Does anyone see a reason not to remove the cover? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 54,283 #2 Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, DeepH2O said: after some investigation, I found that I needed the 111199 bearings instead of the 1533. Might I ask what model Wheel Horse you plan to use these on and who told you a 1533 won't work. If they are for a 1984 or older Uni-drive manual transmission you need the 1533, later models use the 111199. May want to check out a SFK 6008 bearing, same size as the 111199 and a whole lot less money Edited August 1, 2022 by 953 nut 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeepH2O 66 #3 Posted August 1, 2022 2 hours ago, 953 nut said: Might I ask what model Wheel Horse you plan to use these on and who told you a 1533 won't work. If they are for a 1984 or older Uni-drive manual transmission you need the 1533, later models use the 111199. May want to check out a SFK 6008 bearing, same size as the 111199 and a whole lot less money I have a 1989 312-8. Lowell, from Wheel Horse Parts and more is the one who told me. I’ve already purchased the 111199’s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeepH2O 66 #4 Posted August 1, 2022 They are correct. Here’s the side by side measurements from my old bearings and the 111199 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 47,970 #5 Posted August 1, 2022 This has always been a long standing dilemma. Logic would dictate to take the seals out to get oil to the outside however many of the trannies I have been in have what they call shielded bearings. A metal seal rather than a rubber or plastic. Just guessing a shielded bearing weeps some oil thru and WH used them to protect the bearings from transmission gear wear metal. Again just a theory. All of the bearings I get from Lowell get both seals removed. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeepH2O 66 #6 Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, WHX?? said: This has always been a long standing dilemma. Logic would dictate to take the seals out to get oil to the outside however many of the trannies I have been in have what they call shielded bearings. A metal seal rather than a rubber or plastic. Just guessing a shielded bearing weeps some oil thru and WH used them to protect the bearings from transmission gear wear metal. Again just a theory. All of the bearings I get from Lowell get both seals removed. I see your point! I will remove the seals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,381 #7 Posted August 1, 2022 Good to hear you are about to put that transmission back together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeepH2O 66 #8 Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, oliver2-44 said: Good to hear you are about to put that transmission back together. Yeah! I had it ready to go back together before I went back to work, June 29. All but the axle bearings, they came in while I was at work. I just got home last Thursday. I WAS able to get all the corrosion out of the case. I was so glad of that!! The diff is all buttoned up, ready for install. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites