gas

[thomas koehler 6]

I have a D-250  that I havew not had long. I was wondering if since it was built in the days of leaded gas if it would be beter for it if I used lead substitute mixed in the gas to prolong the motor.

 

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,339]

Didn’t unleaded come out in like 1975? And your a few D-250 is newer than that. 

[ineedanother 1,369]

Unnecessary. Just run 87 or 89 octane and limit the ethanol if you can.

[The Freightliner Guy 1,327]

What about ethanol free like clear 88 at maverick 

[peter lena 8,638]

@thomas koehler  been using ethanol gas for years , without issues , I do add  STA BIL , to all my fuels , without any problems , you might also freshen up your fuel filter , filters . BTW  looks like a perfect opportunity , to give that total unit a aerosol lubricant spray down , that starved paint would darken up and save patina , also shed water . give it a total spray down , let sit a day , rub down and do it again , its not hard to do , and would definitely freshen up appearance , and shed water like a good wax job,.   do not use sand paper or scratch pads , only a clean cloth to wipe down that oiled finish , before and after pic , would be dramatically different , pete 

[John2189 454]

9 minutes ago, peter lena said:

@thomas koehler  been using ethanol gas for years , without issues , I do add  STA BIL , to all my fuels , without any problems , you might also freshen up your fuel filter , filters . BTW  looks like a perfect opportunity , to give that total unit a aerosol lubricant spray down , that starved paint would darken up and save patina , also shed water . give it a total spray down , let sit a day , rub down and do it again , its not hard to do , and would definitely freshen up appearance , and shed water like a good wax job,.   do not use sand paper or scratch pads , only a clean cloth to wipe down that oiled finish , before and after pic , would be dramatically different , pete 

What spray lubricant do you use?

[clueless 3,005]

I assume they still sell leaded gas because every gas station, and convenient store I pass for the past 40 years advertises the unleaded  price which would means there must be leaded someway.

[ineedanother 1,369]

Banned with just a few exceptions about 25 years ago.

[lynnmor 7,308]

42 minutes ago, clueless said:

I assume they still sell leaded gas because every gas station, and convenient store I pass for the past 40 years advertises the unleaded  price which would means there must be leaded someway.

All gasoline sold for use on the highway is unleaded.  The unleaded signs at gas stations shows ignorance beyond comprehension.

[peter lena 8,638]

@John2189  you can use , marvel mystery oil , or wd40 , or similar penetrant  , been using a regular paint feed on my horses for years , even on clean paint , it literally feeds the paint  , pete

[John2189 454]

58 minutes ago, peter lena said:

@John2189  you can use , marvel mystery oil , or wd40 , or similar penetrant  , been using a regular paint feed on my horses for years , even on clean paint , it literally feeds the paint  , pete

Ok I have pblaster will that work?

 

[Wild Bill in VA 1,452]

Unleaded gasoline came out in 1973 and was even called synthetic type gas by the media. Stelite valves and hardened valve seats is what it took to run the unleaded gas ..... dang I remember when Sunoco 260 came out of the pumps RED, now that was good leaded gas.

Wild Bill in Richmond VA

[edgro 677]

For a period of time you could get leaded (regular) and unleaded. Thats when they came out with the smaller nozzle tip so you could not put leaded gas into your unleaded car. Once the regular gas went away they never changed the name from unleaded. I have thought that too, why call it unleaded, it's all unleaded, they should be calling it regular

[killroy 35]

Just like no smoking signs on airplanes.  Haven't been able to smoke on a plane in a long time but they still have the no smoking 🚭 signs 

[thomas koehler 6]

Lots of good advice. Thank you all.

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by thomas koehler

[peter lena 8,638]

@killroy almost funny now my last  smoking flying experience was many years' ago , coming back from florida , smokers in the back ,  of course smoke fumes were everywhere , the good old days , pete 

[Beap52 815]

If I remember, when it first was offered for sale, unleaded gas was more expensive than regular or ethyl gas.  At the time I used only ethyl gas in my motorcycles and the fellow I worked with only burned ethyl gas in his 1971 Ford pickup. He believed that the additional cost for ethyl over regular leaded gas paid for itself through better fuel economy.  Back then, the gas station attendant would come out, pump your gas and while doing so wash the windshield. Then if you has an account there, your would sign a ticket while sitting in your car and come in once a month to pay your bill.

 

It also seemed that when using leaded gas one thing I looked for was a light gray or whitish deposit inside the tailpipe.  That supposedly showed an engine that was tuned-up correctly and not an oil burner. Then came unleaded gas and tailpipes didn't have this whitish deposits.  Now, the tailpipes are on clean running engines don't have any deposits.  

 

We also enjoyed "gas wars".  I have bought gas for as little as 19 cents per gallon. Of course I was paid two dollars per hour. Back then even a penny or two per gallon was a significant savings.  We lived in a small town.  The gas stations closed early and if my motorcycle needed fuel "after hours" I drained the gas in the gas pump lines to get me home.  The hoses were much longer back then.

[953 nut 55,324]

On 7/30/2022 at 3:40 PM, clueless said:

I assume they still sell leaded gas because every gas station, and convenient store I pass for the past 40 years advertises the unleaded  price which would means there must be leaded someway.

Kind of like a speakeasy during prohibition, you need to pull around to the back of the gas station and ask for Joe.          

On 7/30/2022 at 8:58 PM, Wild Bill in VA said:

dang I remember when Sunoco 260 came out of the pumps RED, now that was good leaded gas

Most of us who used 260 didn't have a high compression engine that benefited from the higher octane, but it made us feel like we had a rocket ship.