TonyToro Jr. 1,442 #1 Posted June 25, 2022 I am looking to build another pulling tractor I need it to have 1/1/8 axle size for it. Does anyone know like where I can find all the models that have it or does anybody know what models have that size axle. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #2 Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Off the top of my head... here are some models that... to my understanding have 1-1/8 axle... 312-8 C81 Raider 12 310-8 312-8 314 416 C-165 GT1848 417-8 520-H Charger 12 953 C-175 More 1969 Raider 9 1970 Raider 10 1963 model 953 1964 model 1054 1965 model 1054A 867 1257 ETC ETC ETC... Here's a good list... Don Edited June 25, 2022 by Snoopy11 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #3 Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Not 100% positive on this - but - there may be a difference in the differentials - number of pinions, limited slip or open. That is the case with the 1" 6 speeds... Well, I've been wrong before, just ask my wife..... Bill Edited June 26, 2022 by ri702bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #4 Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) OK...1st, there are no 1" axle 6 speeds. All 6 speeds #5060 & #5071 and the 8 speed #5073 are 1 1/8" axles, but are LSD. Don's list is not correct either. Some 310's & 312's have 1" axles and 4 pinion differentials. (#5086 & #110996) All 4 pinion differentials have 1" axles...and all 1" axles have 4 pinion differentials. You are looking for models that have 1 1/8" axles and 8 pinion differentials. These are the #5091, #103907, #103916, #103918 & #110995. This list will help you a little, but in the long run, you will have to go to the Manual and see what transmission a particular horse has. Edited June 28, 2022 by stevasaurus edited by stevaaurus change 110996 & 110995 around above 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #5 Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, stevasaurus said: Don's list is not correct either. Some 310's & 312's have 1" axles and 4 pinion differentials. Oh well... I tried... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OutdoorEnvy 1,522 #6 Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said: Oh well... I tried... Don It was typed out and listed nicely though Don good info though as I have wondered on which have the 1 1/8” myself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #7 Posted June 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, OutdoorEnvy said: I have wondered on which have the 1 1/8” myself I hate to butcher the thread... but I have always wondered if any garden tractor transmissions can be shifted on the fly... @Maxwell-8... tagging you here... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EB-80/8inPA 1,653 #8 Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Snoopy11 said: I hate to butcher the thread... but I have always wondered if any garden tractor transmissions can be shifted on the fly... It depends? I was perplexed by this question too. The overall impression (albeit conflicting) I got from my reading of the forum was that they should not be. But I found that a freshly re-lubed unit could be slipped through the gears while rolling if done gently - and with no apparent friction/grinding. IDK. It would be prudent to defer to @stevasaurus for a definitive answer. Edited June 26, 2022 by EB-80/8inPA Or read the operator’s manual! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #9 Posted June 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Snoopy11 said: I hate to butcher the thread... but I have always wondered if any garden tractor transmissions can be shifted on the fly... @Maxwell-8... tagging you here... Don I think it can be done, that being said, It's very risky and very difficult and don't recommend it. you will have to revmatch very precisely. My raider will let me do it. without any issue. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #10 Posted June 26, 2022 The question was...any garden tractor transmissions. The real answer is, "what does it say in your Manual??" Wheel Horse says to come to a complete stop and start out in the gear you want to use...for all of their manual transmissions. As for double clutching, that doesn't work for Wheel Horse...not when your clutch consist of a belt guard and a tension pulley. Maybe those with a drive shaft?? I do not know. Maybe start a thread as this is off topic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,011 #11 Posted June 26, 2022 20 hours ago, TonyToro Jr. said: I am looking to build another pulling tractor I need it to have 1/1/8 axle size for it. Does anyone know like where I can find all the models that have it or does anybody know what models have that size axle. Thanks For pulling you'll probably want an 8 pinion 1 1/8" axle trans. Look at 400 series manual trans tractors. I have a trans somewhere and I'll check it out. Maybe bring it to Zags summer show if you guys are going. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #12 Posted June 27, 2022 I am looking at getting a 416-8 in July... ( I feel this to be relevant to this thread... and perhaps helpful to T.T. Jr.) These are the words of another member on the forum... The 400 series have the heavier 1-1/8" axles with the 8-pinion diffs... 400's have 8" fronts and 23" wide rear skins... Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #13 Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) @TonyToro Jr.... you may already know this... but I am reading to get more educated... (I'll certainly be corrected if what I say here is not valid...) To my understanding... 1" axles have 4 pinions INCLUDING some 8 speeds... so you must research the particular transmission. 1 1/8" axles have 8 or 10 pinions If I were you, I'd be looking for a 5060 (1-1/8" axles, 10 pinion LSD model) On 6/25/2022 at 4:30 PM, stevasaurus said: Don's list is not correct either. Some 310's & 312's have 1" axles and 4 pinion differentials. (#5086 & #110996) You aren't correct either... On 6/16/2022 at 10:41 AM, stevasaurus said: #110996 has 1" axles and 4 pinion differential, 300 series. #110995 has 1 1/8" axles and 8 pinion differential, 400 series. On 4/12/2011 at 9:00 PM, TT said: The 110995 and the 92-8708 Uni-Drives are the last two versions of the 8 pinion / 8 speeds produced. Further... On 6/25/2022 at 4:30 PM, stevasaurus said: You are looking for models that have 1 1/8" axles and 8 pinion differentials. These are the #5091, #103907, #103916, #103918 & #110995. Nope... he doesn't want a 110996... On 6/16/2022 at 10:41 AM, stevasaurus said: #110996 has 1" axles and 4 pinion differential Don Edited June 28, 2022 by stevasaurus edited by stevaaurus corrected my mistakes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #14 Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) You still do not get it Don. Back a while ago, there was some confusion about the 110995 and the 110996. Some of the lists that we look at had typos. Sometimes I have big fingers, and I do. I was a lineman, not a secretary. If I make a mistake, and I do, I try to correct it and move on. GWest and I have had some back and forth over that 110995 & 110996 thing, and we got it straightened out. 1 1/8" axles with 8 pinion differentials...5091, 103907, 103916, 103918, 110995 1 1/8" axles with 10 pinion Limited Slip differentials...5060, 5071, 5073 1" axles with 4 pinion differentials, with hi/low range...5086, 110996 The 10 pinion LS transmissions are not usually what Pullers are looking for, they want the 8 pinion differentials. See, I got it wrong again. Now it is correct just above about the 110996 & 110995. I will try to correct my typing in the posts above also. Edited June 28, 2022 by stevasaurus edited by stevaaurus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #15 Posted June 28, 2022 21 hours ago, stevasaurus said: See, I got it wrong again. Now it is correct just above about the 110996 & 110995. I will try to correct my typing in the posts above also. Yeah... I did a little research before posting that reply above... I thought maybe things had gotten mixed up. Even my reply was probably a little confusing... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,764 #16 Posted June 28, 2022 @Snoopy11 Things getting mixed up happens. I've had a habit of getting those 2 transmissions mixed up. I had it wrong in some of my notes, but I think I have my notes corrected at this time. I will always correct incorrect information, I think this site deserves that, but I most certainly never mean to demean anybody that I correct...including myself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
