Interesting engine swap find

[Docwheelhorse 2,660]

Hello All,

I have a C160-8 that ended up with a hydro drive pulley somewhere in its past or a complete 16 out of a hydro.

 

Well... I have a C160 Hydro with a knocking wreck of a motor and decided to pull this engine out to put in the hydro and swap a Mag 16 into the C160 at a friend's request. He wanted a C160 but doesn't like the K versus the Mag.

 

In the past I've swapped Mags into Bs but the exhaust / muffler is too big and hood wouldn't shut.

 

It was a pleasant surprise to see a Mag fit like a glove into a C! I'll have to measure but it's almost obvious the C hood is taller than the B.

 

The 416-8 donor tractor was / is completly beat... the 2nd interesting event was that all I did was connect a battery, jam the fuel line into a can of fresh fuel and tickle it with carb clean. It started and runs great... been sitting for YEARS 

 

See you at show!!

 

Tony

[ebinmaine 67,590]

25 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said:

I'll have to measure but it's almost obvious the C hood is taller than the B.

Tony check the hood hinges carefully when you look at the sheet metal. 

Seems to me the 74/75 B with it's "mid length" frame used the same hood but different hinges. 

It would make sense that a C hood may set a bit higher but I wasn't aware of a height change. 

Is your C series receiving the engine originally a Tecumseh engine tractor?

The one you brought up and the one I bought both have VERY tall hood hinges to help clear the overhead valve engine. 

 

[SylvanLakeWH 25,598]

@Docwheelhorse perhaps a lottery ticket or two would be in order…? 

 

Nice save!!! 

[Docwheelhorse 2,660]

10 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Tony check the hood hinges carefully when you look at the sheet metal. 

Seems to me the 74/75 B with it's "mid length" frame used the same hood but different hinges. 

It would make sense that a C hood may set a bit higher but I wasn't aware of a height change. 

Is your C series receiving the engine originally a Tecumseh engine tractor?

The one you brought up and the one I bought both have VERY tall hood hinges to help clear the overhead valve engine. 

 

Interesting... Ill have to run the ID number and see if this C was one of the Tecumseh OHV ones

[ebinmaine 67,590]

4 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said:

Interesting... Ill have to run the ID number and see if this C was one of the Tecumseh OHV ones

IIFF it was... And IIFF you don't want the tag... Lemme know. 

The one I bought has no tag.  

[Docwheelhorse 2,660]

1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

IIFF it was... And IIFF you don't want the tag... Lemme know. 

The one I bought has no tag.  

Isnt VIN tag manipulation a felony? Lol

[ebinmaine 67,590]

1 minute ago, Docwheelhorse said:

Isnt VIN tag manipulation a felony? Lol

I believe it is. Let's not be advertising this extreme number swapping to the authorities ehh??? 

[Docwheelhorse 2,660]

5 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

IIFF it was... And IIFF you don't want the tag... Lemme know. 

The one I bought has no tag.  

Here's a pic of tag... de-code it and let me know , I'll drill the rivets and bring to show if it's legit. Neither I nor my friend would care if the tag was gone

[Docwheelhorse 2,660]

[ebinmaine 67,590]

Looks like that's a

 

1 0385 9

 

That IS  a Tecumseh engine tractor.  

 

I won't be at the Big Show.... If you'd kindly mail that to me I'd be happy to send a bit of compensation.  

 

[ebinmaine 67,590]

I find it interesting that you'd get your hands on TWO of those Tecumsehorse as uncommon as they're claimed to be. 

[Docwheelhorse 2,660]

6 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

I find it interesting that you'd get your hands on TWO of those Tecumsehorse as uncommon as they're claimed to be. 

Kinda like there's only "225" 520-8s... but I've seen 1,437,763 of them.... 

[Pullstart 62,905]

1 hour ago, Docwheelhorse said:

Kinda like there's only "225" 520-8s... but I've seen 1,437,763 of them.... 

 

Especially after I got my hands on one… then they popped up everywhere!

[Maxwell-8 4,277]

I had trouble fitting a M16 in my C141

LOL

 

[JoeM 7,874]

I am pretty sure we raised the hood 3/4 on this c120 for the mag 10. Original was an HH120 Tecky Flat Head.

 

[squonk 41,150]

10 hours ago, Docwheelhorse said:

Isnt VIN tag manipulation a felony? Lol

He's in "Maine" 

 

[peter lena 8,634]

@Docwheelhorse  terrific swap on that , boy I  would love to do the recovery / wake up on that engine ! I do it in stages from fuel to electric , grounding . go over every area . gallon jugs of fuel and treatment , hot flush oil change , add all my improvements that I  have on my engines. looking at that , with a bib on , sweet ,  pete

[Docwheelhorse 2,660]

UPDATE... 6/17/22

 

I've got about 30 hrs into this swap... starter, puked, the spare was junk... pulled a 3rd... solenoid worked then puked... it has been busting stones. But I kept going and it runs sweet, tomorrow a deck and a "field trial"

 

Happy Weekend !!! See you next week at the BIG SHOW!!!

[ebinmaine 67,590]

30 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said:

runs sweet

Good to hear Man!

 

Any chance that ID plate will "fall off"?

😀

[Docwheelhorse 2,660]

41 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Good to hear Man!

 

Any chance that ID plate will "fall off"?

😀

I've thought about it and have decided to leave it on... that way there's a story behind the tractor and a way to prove it. Isn't there someone doing reproductions of these tags that could bang you out one

[ebinmaine 67,590]

24 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said:

I've thought about it and have decided to leave it on... that way there's a story behind the tractor and a way to prove it. Isn't there someone doing reproductions of these tags that could bang you out one

I like that logic. Good to have it there.  

Gives provenance. 

 

Reproduction??

Wasn't aware of those tags being done...

That'd be neat.  

Any thoughts where to look?

 

[Thor27 769]

On 6/14/2022 at 5:56 PM, ebinmaine said:

 

That IS  a Tecumseh engine tractor.  

 

 

You posted that just in time to stop me from robbing a c120 parts tractor hood for my 312H!    thanks.