Ed Kennell 38,906 #1 Posted June 9, 2022 Do the K Kohlers 10 thru 16 HP use the same starter? I need a starter for a K321-S Spec # 604410 ser # 1610811383 The starters that look correct (10 tooth) show they fit the K241, K301 , and K341. But the fit list does not include a K321 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,112 #2 Posted June 9, 2022 Original number help? https://www.partstree.com/models/k321-60440-kohler-k-series-engine-made-for-wheel-horse-14hp-10-4kw/electric-start-cont-11-10-37-tp-691-b-rev-10-17-2006-10/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,929 #3 Posted June 9, 2022 You sure about that spec number?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,929 #4 Posted June 9, 2022 If it is 60414 (made for WH) it would be variation 205 see bottom of picture for part number Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,348 #5 Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ed Kennell said: I need a starter for a K321-S I just replaced brushes on the starter of a K301. Didn't had the power to turn the engine over the compression stroke. It now spins at high rpm and that for only for a couple of bucks Edited June 9, 2022 by Maxwell-8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,174 #6 Posted June 9, 2022 @Maxwell-8 has a valid point, those little starters are pretty tough. If you havent broken the magnets, or something really bad, the brushes or bushings could very well fix it. Have you opened it up yet?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,906 #7 Posted June 9, 2022 5 hours ago, gwest_ca said: Original number help? https://www.partstree.com/models/k321-60440-kohler-k-series-engine-made-for-wheel-horse-14hp-10-4kw/electric-start-cont-11-10-37-tp-691-b-rev-10-17-2006-10/ Thanks Garry, that helps. So I need a # 236396 starter. 5 hours ago, pfrederi said: You sure about that spec number?? Yes the spec is 604410. Garrys link shows this number as correct. How do I determine the variation of my K321 6044 to be able to use the chart? The 236396 starter is shown on the second line of the chart. @Maxwell-8 and @pacer, this is for a customer. His starter came loose and broke one of the mounting bolts off in the block resulting in jamming the bendix in the flywheel. He got the broken bolt out and remounted the starter and it is working OK, but he wants a spare starter on the shelf in case the starter shaft was stressed and may fail. I have seen these starter shafts break. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,501 #8 Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) I have swapped big block starters around for years. Never had an issue with fitment no. of teeth ect. Edited June 9, 2022 by squonk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,668 #9 Posted June 9, 2022 When the original starter went up on my B-100 in 2003, the Wheel Horse dealer sold me a starter for the K341. He said that was all he stocked since it fit all K-series from 10hp to 16hp. I guess that included the K321 as well. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,174 #10 Posted June 9, 2022 If I'da paused a minute I'da realized an old pro like you would have a Very good reason for asking ...... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,112 #11 Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: Thanks Garry, that helps. So I need a # 236396 starter. Yes the spec is 604410. Garrys link shows this number as correct. How do I determine the variation of my K321 6044 to be able to use the chart? The 236396 starter is shown on the second line of the chart. @Maxwell-8 and @pacer, this is for a customer. His starter came loose and broke one of the mounting bolts off in the block resulting in jamming the bendix in the flywheel. He got the broken bolt out and remounted the starter and it is working OK, but he wants a spare starter on the shelf in case the starter shaft was stressed and may fail. I have seen these starter shafts break. The spec I linked you to is 60440 and the only one close in the list of specs Toro used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,929 #12 Posted June 10, 2022 14 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: Thanks Garry, that helps. So I need a # 236396 starter. Yes the spec is 604410. Garrys link shows this number as correct. How do I determine the variation of my K321 6044 to be able to use the chart? The 236396 starter is shown on the second line of the chart. @Maxwell-8 and @pacer, this is for a customer. His starter came loose and broke one of the mounting bolts off in the block resulting in jamming the bendix in the flywheel. He got the broken bolt out and remounted the starter and it is working OK, but he wants a spare starter on the shelf in case the starter shaft was stressed and may fail. I have seen these starter shafts break. Per the Kohler engine web site spec numbers are 4 or 5 digits never 6... WH spec #s for K321 all start with 60 last 3 digits are these...124,125,137,279,322,362,373,414,424,440 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,906 #13 Posted June 10, 2022 4 hours ago, pfrederi said: Per the Kohler engine web site spec numbers are 4 or 5 digits never 6... WH spec #s for K321 all start with 60 last 3 digits are these...124,125,137,279,322,362,373,414,424,440 Thanks Paul, the info the owner gave me vie phone was 604410. It could very well be 60440. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,929 #14 Posted June 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: Thanks Paul, the info the owner gave me vie phone was 604410. It could very well be 60440. 60424 was on 1985 314-8 and 314-A 60440 1986 414-8 Even though Kohler shows 60414 as a WH spec I can't find for a specific WH tractor.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,906 #15 Posted June 10, 2022 3 hours ago, pfrederi said: 60440 1986 414-8 The owner said it was a 1987 414-8. He may have bought it in 1987, but it is probably an'86 model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
