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[TJ5208 1,824]

13 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

@kpinnc... 520-H with a 23hp Vanguard

 

That 520 is

[Snoopy11 5,714]

@SamH.... C-175 with Predator 22 HP

 

On 11/23/2018 at 8:58 PM, SamH said:

 

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[Snoopy11 5,714]

@WildmanC120... C161 with Predator 22HP...

 

On 10/25/2018 at 6:15 PM, WildmanC120 said:

I took the old Briggs mounting plate and cut the angled pieces with the rubber mounts off each end.  I then placed it where I wanted it and drilled some new mounting holes.  This gave me something to mount the engine too.  This plate is literally as high as you can go otherwise the hood will hit and rest on the top of the engine.  I wish you could go a little higher but in the end it should work OK.  I will have to find some shorter belts to run the deck and snowblower i'm sure. 

 

 

 

 

On 10/25/2018 at 6:20 PM, WildmanC120 said:

 

 

 

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[Snoopy11 5,714]

@bmsgaffer... 525 EXI with 25HP EFI Kohler Command 25 HP CH730...

 

On 10/26/2016 at 11:55 PM, bmsgaffer said:

 

 

 

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[Snoopy11 5,714]

@aHorseofCourse... 308 with Briggs 18hp opposed Twin...

 

On 8/20/2017 at 8:50 PM, aHorseofCourse said:

 

 

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[ebinmaine 67,570]

Trina's first Horse. 657 with a 1978 Briggs and Stratton 8 HP from my grampa's IHC Cub Cadet snowblower. 

Here's a thread that shows a great before and after of all of her hard work on the first one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

2 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

You may indeed have to have an adapter plate if you plan to use the PTO function just to get everything aligned.

 

I'm thinking not since the GT xxxx used the same motor I've got.

 

I need to look over the IPLs for the GT models and compare to what I've got.  Seems the easiest way since it  doesn't seem anyone has done it already.

 

 

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@Mike Johnson... B-100/220 with GX630...

 

On 2/4/2017 at 10:14 AM, Mike Johnson said:

 

 

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@artfull dodger ...Commando 8 with Yanmar diesel L70AE

 

On 9/15/2017 at 9:31 PM, artfull dodger said:

 

 

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@sorekiwi... 516-H with 10 hp diesel clone engine.

 

On 10/6/2013 at 9:11 AM, sorekiwi said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@seuadr... 520H with Onan N52M swap.

 

On 4/4/2021 at 5:53 PM, seuadr said:

 

But it fits! Even lined up with the existing holes!

Muffler clearance is snug

Tins mostly fitted in place

PTO sits at the same spacing/height

 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

@cschannuth... 606 with Predator 212

 

On 4/21/2017 at 6:54 PM, cschannuth said:

I was sold on the 212cc Predator by my brother. You see, if it can survive my brother and his kids, it can survive anything. I'm very particular and a maintenance freak. He is neither of those things. He bought a small Baja branded Chinese dirt bike from Orschelns Farm and Home 5 or 6 years ago and it had the small Predator. They have run that poor thing to death and it has never had the oil checked or changed in its entire life. It's starts on the first pull every time and is still going strong. 

 

Needless to say, when I came across an almost free 606 roller the Predator was an easy choice for me. It's easily my favorite tractor. I upsized the engine pulley and almost doubled the speed and it handles it with ease. 

 

 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

@dells68... GT14 with Predator 420cc (13 HP) swap.

 

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@illinilefttackle ...656 with Predator 212 swap.

 

On 6/11/2013 at 8:05 PM, illinilefttackle said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

@ricksrj58 L-157 with Predator 212.

 

On 6/29/2014 at 3:23 PM, ricksrj58 said:

picked up a nice little ranger with minor engine problems mainly being a techy so i bought a predator for $98 bucks.fedex delivered it yesterday and i allready have it mounted on the tractor.i just need to figure out what type of bracket/frame to build so i can use the original fuel tank and position.

On 7/9/2014 at 7:28 PM, ricksrj58 said:

 

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@Xjchief 606 with predator 212 swap

 

On 10/1/2013 at 10:16 PM, Xjchief said:

Swapped out the tired and broken tecumseh for the harbor freight 6.5hp predator. I know it seems kinda wrong to put a Chinese motor on an American tractor but it's a great option to get the tractor back to work. The swap was pretty easy, here are some pictures. Feel free to ask any specific questions if you are thinking about doing this.

On 10/1/2013 at 10:20 PM, Xjchief said:

 

 

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@DAVE L... L155 with Predator 212

 

On 5/31/2014 at 11:38 PM, DAVE L said:

 

 

 

 

 

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[cschannuth 3,816]

17 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

@cschannuth... 606 with Predator 212

 

Sorry I missed this thread @Snoopy11.  Still one of my favorites and still going strong.  And my brother’s  Chinese dirt bike is still running on that original 10 year old oil with no issues.

[ebinmaine 67,570]

3 minutes ago, cschannuth said:

 

Like that generator mount. 

@OldWorkHorse Steve here's an idea. 

 

[cschannuth 3,816]

Just now, ebinmaine said:

 

Like that generator mount. 

@OldWorkHorse Steve here's an idea. 

 

I built the bumper earlier and just added a couple of angle iron tabs to the front of it to match up with the generator hanger. It works pretty well.

[APG2 5]

On 6/7/2022 at 12:48 PM, Maxwell-8 said:

As far as I know no, very few engines can handle that side load.  Ball bearings do not per say mean they can handle that side load.

I was glad to see Lombardini having those specs in the manual, and I can say, it easily can handle those side loads. Although I will be most likely keep the centrifugal clutch on it for now.

Single cylinder cast iron Kohler's use deep groove ball bearings on the crank shaft, I'd imagine the Honda clones probably do too since the Honda GX singles do. The PTO load that the single cylinder Kohler's take isn't anything that any other engine with deep groove ball bearings can't take. I've read quite a few posts throughout this site with people saying you have to use the Kohler because it has thrust bearings, and that's flat out wrong, they're deep groove ball bearings.

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5 hours ago, cschannuth said:

Sorry I missed this thread @Snoopy11

Oh, no problemo bro! Glad to have all of you guys here on the forum... just a matter of reining all of you in!

 

Don

[Maxwell-8 4,277]

3 hours ago, APG2 said:

Honda clones

I can't speak for predators or clone's you have over in the US, but here in Belgium and most of Europe. clone's do not come with ball bearings, and definitely not the deep groove ones you are talking about.

 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

Just now, Maxwell-8 said:

I can't speak for predators or clone's you have over in the US, but here in Belgium and most of Europe. clone's do not come with ball bearings, and definitely not the deep groove ones you are talking about.

I'll throw in my input here. I have taken apart... let's just say... LOT'S of these newer engines.

 

Carroll Stream engines and Duromax engines have the best bearings for PTO applications in my opinion... "thrust bearings"

 

Predator engines here in the U.S. also do have some hearty ball bearings as @APG2 mentioned and can be used in PTO applications... although my personal preference would always be Carroll Stream or Duromax.

 

@Maxwell-8... you bring up a very good point. The other clone engines on the market (no name knock-offs) should be steered away from.

 

It is also important to note that Predator engine have gone through generational changes... as in the early days... the legality of clone engines was in question... (if they made clone engines too much like Honda... they would get into hot water)... but that changed greatly in 2nd and 3rd gen Predator Engines.

 

Many of ...what I will call "crappy clones" are still on the market today, unfortunately... and that causes a lot of snafus for a lot of people.

 

Don

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@Embick87... 18 auto with Kohler CH18...

 

On 10/15/2020 at 10:30 PM, Embick87 said:

This is an 18 auotomatic my grandfather gave me years ago. I have been recently inspired to work on it again. I brought it back to life with a kohler ch 18. I cant believe the power and response of this big old tractor.

 

I had to raise it up a little, and had a spacer made. Just so it fits under the hood