mort 24 #1 Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) I have a Wheel Horse (not Toro) 42" single stage snowblower. I don't have a manual for it and can not find any serial number/model number tags on it. The original owner had a nylon rope to turn the chute and also had the 4 little pulleys loose (not bolted down tight). I was wondering what is the best material (thin steel cable?) to use to turn the chute and does it work best with all 4 pulleys locked down tight? I have never installed a snowblower to any Wheel Horse that I have ever owned (since 1983) only mower decks and snow blades. It is unclear if that flag is suppose to have a spring attached to it or not and if the standard mower deck lift is what is lowering/raising the snowblower. It looks from the online pictures that it is bolted somewhere else? I still have parts from old Snapper/Massey tractors/snowblowers so I am not sure what parts are Wheel Horse or from other tractors. Any help would be appreciated before I try to install it. Thanks, Mort Edited May 28, 2022 by mort Pictures of the snowblower 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,354 #2 Posted May 28, 2022 Pictures of all the pieces and parts will help us, help you 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #3 Posted May 28, 2022 I just posted pictures of the snowblower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,036 #4 Posted May 28, 2022 Snowthrower DNA All have 2 idler sprockets for the drive chain. Started out as 37" wide and the added wings make them 42" wide. 1966-67 model ST-376 1968 model 6-1211 1969 6-6211 plus 6-9111 1970-72 model 6-6212 plus 6-9112 All without front quick hitch so not a direct fit for 1973 and later tractors. Snowthrower rear frame mounts in the front of the tractor frame using 2 bushings and a long 3/8-16 x 8-1/2" bolt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,199 #5 Posted May 28, 2022 Hi Mort, check out my thread on the restoration of the one I picked up last year. Some good tips in there for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #6 Posted May 29, 2022 Hi Jeff, I don't have time or the capability to do all of this and I don't weld at all. Too bad Wheel Horse didn't come up with kit to do this. What is the newest tractor this blower would fit on? Any B or C series? I don't even know how I got this old snowblower as the oldest tractor I own is a 1978 C161 and that has tach-a matic Can that blower hook up to a 310-8 if i took off the tach-a-matic or does something else need to be modified? Thanks, Mort Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,199 #7 Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, mort said: Can that blower hook up to a 310-8 if i took off the tach-a-matic or does something else need to be modified? I believe it could work... My 1980 C-175 had a hole through the front of the frame that would accept that long bolt, but the attach-a-matic was in the way. Removing the Attach-a-matic from my machine would mean that the hood hinges had no place to bolt onto, and throwing snow without a hood is just ... silly ... If you can find someone that has the later mounting setup, it will bolt right up to that blower chassis. You might find that the idler arm pulleys don't line up as on my 175. Edited May 29, 2022 by Jeff-C175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,691 #8 Posted May 29, 2022 This file should be similar to yours, I used some #12 gauge stranded electrical wire I had laying around & 2 round terminal ends to replace my turn cable, works great. The flag hooks into the upper hole on the short lift bracket. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/file/1925-snowthrower-42in-1975-6-6214-om-ipl-snpdf/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,691 #9 Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) I also have spare shorter brackets you can bolt on it so you can use your Tach-A-Matic front mount... If lift rod is different I have one of those too... Edited May 29, 2022 by Blasterdad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #10 Posted May 29, 2022 Hi Blasterdad, How much do you want for those shorter brackets? Thanks, Gary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,691 #11 Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, mort said: Hi Blasterdad, How much do you want for those shorter brackets? Thanks, Gary You can have them if they will help you out, PM me with your address & I'll see how much it costs to ship them to you, won't be till Tuesday because of the holiday though... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,712 #12 Posted May 29, 2022 The wire cable used for the lifting of garage doors...the wire holding the door springs is perfect for the Sno-blower. Available at Home Depot and other Box stores. You want very flexible stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,199 #13 Posted May 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: wire cable used for the lifting of garage doors Sometimes referred to as "wire rope". I tried the 1/8" stuff commonly used for garage doors and found it's 'bending radius' a bit too large to work well around the crank shaft. Right now I've got 1/16" on mine and it held up for a few uses last winter. Time will tell if it's adequate strength for long term or not. I got a 33' piece on Amazon for something like $10 bucks or so... if it works for 2 or 3 years, I've got plenty left over... unless I use it to restring all of the Treasurer's wind chimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,199 #14 Posted May 29, 2022 22 hours ago, mort said: does it work best with all 4 pulleys locked down tight? I don't know if anyone has answered this directly... but no, the pulleys are supposed to turn freely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,589 #15 Posted May 29, 2022 @mort used these electrical lugs ,https://www.amazon.com/Southwire-LUG250K-6AD-1PK-Mechanical- on side of chute base for a very solid go to cable point , also make up a snow slider , plastic circular base gasket for that chute , use super lube on it for very easy chute swing . my chute guides move to assist swing , auger looks very good , use a specific chain/ cable lubricant on the auger chain , 1/2" deflection , adjustment . also detail lubricant in that idler pulley spring tension frame set up , the easier it follows , spring tension , the better it works . never let the drive chain dry out , I lube mine before and after use , never had my 1/8 " cable , chute pull fail . like most w/h attachments, if you detail its function , lubricate all movement areas , they work better . like I said my chute guides swivel , use super lube on them and related base mount/ swing point . pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #16 Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Blasterdad said: You can have them if they will help you out, PM me with your address & I'll see how much it costs to ship them to you, won't be till Tuesday because of the holiday though... Sounds great! Thank You! Mort Edited May 29, 2022 by nylyon Address removed for members security Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #17 Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, stevasaurus said: The wire cable used for the lifting of garage doors...the wire holding the door springs is perfect for the Sno-blower. Available at Home Depot and other Box stores. You want very flexible stuff. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #18 Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Jeff-C175 said: I don't know if anyone has answered this directly... but no, the pulleys are supposed to turn freely. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #19 Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, peter lena said: @mort used these electrical lugs ,https://www.amazon.com/Southwire-LUG250K-6AD-1PK-Mechanical- on side of chute base for a very solid go to cable point , also make up a snow slider , plastic circular base gasket for that chute , use super lube on it for very easy chute swing . my chute guides move to assist swing , auger looks very good , use a specific chain/ cable lubricant on the auger chain , 1/2" deflection , adjustment . also detail lubricant in that idler pulley spring tension frame set up , the easier it follows , spring tension , the better it works . never let the drive chain dry out , I lube mine before and after use , never had my 1/8 " cable , chute pull fail . like most w/h attachments, if you detail its function , lubricate all movement areas , they work better . like I said my chute guides swivel , use super lube on them and related base mount/ swing point . pete Thanks! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,174 #20 Posted May 30, 2022 9 hours ago, stevasaurus said: The wire cable used for the lifting of garage doors...the wire holding the door springs is perfect for the Sno-blower. Available at Home Depot and other Box stores. You want very flexible stuff. I got 3/32" for the new safety cables at the shop where I had the replacement springs made. (One spring broke and the safety cable did its job but I replaced both springs and all cables.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,691 #21 Posted May 30, 2022 8 hours ago, mort said: Sounds great! Thank You! Mort You have to Private Message me with your information, administration removed it from your post, never a good idea to post your info on public forums...Hover over my Sig picture & click on the message box in the drop down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #22 Posted May 30, 2022 14 hours ago, Handy Don said: I got 3/32" for the new safety cables at the shop where I had the replacement springs made. (One spring broke and the safety cable did its job but I replaced both springs and all cables.) Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,691 #23 Posted June 2, 2022 Here's a pic of the bracket you need, this is from a blower I parted out, the owner evidently didn't notice the two back bolts had fallen out alowing the driveshaft to wear into the bracket. Still useable if you want it, stopped at the post office after work & it would be $11.65 to ship it to you. I would have told you in our PM but couldn't upload a pic of it there, want you to see it to make sure you want it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mort 24 #24 Posted June 17, 2022 Blasterdad, Here are those pictures of those lifting rods I mentioned earlier Thanks, Mort Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,589 #25 Posted June 17, 2022 @mort looks like the guys have you covered , have to add the condition of that looks very good , no bends or hard impact on the auger is very good . recommend lubriplate , chain and cable lubricant for the auger chain drive , never let mine dry out . that hard sliding chute base , kids have any , roll up snow sliders ? , removed chute ,magic marker drew a gasket that perfectly fit under chute , use , SUPER LUBE silicone spray , chute spins with ease , BTW my brass chute guides do move with it , not sloppy loose , just enough. also use the 1/8 " stainless cable for the chute rotation . use wire terminal ends to bolt to chute pull holes. as I set up mine , I lubricated as I went , making everything work easier . good luck with it , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites