Snowblower size for 416-H

[JerryLook 73]

Obviously I have a bit of time until I’ll need it again, but I’m looking for a snowblower attachment for my 416-H. 
 

Ive noticed that most of the wheel horse snowblowers I see used are 36” wide. I measured the front end on my 416-H and C-105. The 416-H (with 6” rims) measures 34” wide, and the C-105 (with 8” rims, that might be going on the 416-H) measures 36” wide. So I would assume the ideal snowblower would be at least as wide as the front end. 
 

So will a 36” snowblower work well for my 416-H? Any models I should avoid? Single stage or 2 stage? 
 

These are some I’m looking at.

[JerryLook 73]

I’ll have to read through the forum rules again to see if I can mention prices of the ones I’m looking at. I’m on so many different forums I always forget the rules on each individual one. If I remember correctly I’m allowed to mention prices but not post individual ads from CL or eBay. 

[peter lena 8,634]

@JerryLook  jerry that picture is a single stage , 36 x 42  , with the SIDE CUTTERS  attached . note you live in upstate ny , get a lot of snow ?  what type of snow ,  light and fluffy or  wet and crusty ,  wet snow favors a 42 " dozer blade , lighter snow is easily handled with that single stage , but a double stage  with your 16 hp would be the deal in deep snow . your 16 will handle and mount either blower . look on site for reference . looking at  blower , that auger looks pretty good , with no heavy bends or damage , usually neglected for , auger chain lubrication and neglect , also note how auger chute swivels , those side wheels can be change to sliders. actually its a good time to hunt down a blower  .  get one and get it all set up for use, pete  

[JerryLook 73]

Thanks for the info Pete. The snowblowers pictured above are two different units. The seller wants 50$ for the older looking one and 100$ for the other. I’m supposed to go look at them in the morning. I’ll try to spin the auger, and see if the chute moves freely back and forth. 
I have no info on when they were last used, but I’ll find out tomorrow. 
 

We have all kinds of snow here. I’m on the edge of the tug hill plateau, which gets very heavy snowfall. Although it has been getting less and less in later years. 
 

I just wanted to make sure the 36” wide snowblower is what I need. I’m supposed to be getting one from the person I got the 416 from, but it’s at his ex wife’s house, and who know if and when that will work out. So I’m looking to pick up one when prices are cheap. 
 

Thanks for your help. 

Edited May 27, 2022 by JerryLook
It censored a word for some reason. Interesting

[Handy Don 12,235]

The blowers that work on the 416 will ALL have a solid, welded-in, ⅝" rod at the end of the mounting bracket that goes into the front attach-a-matic hitch.

Older (and not compatible) models have a removable ½" rod held in with R-clips.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Handy Don

[JerryLook 73]

Ok good to know. Is there a way to tell by the pics which one these blowers have? 
 

 

[JerryLook 73]

If I’m looking at the right rod it looks like the one in the top pic is welded in and the bottom pic is removable. 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,046]

I believe the 37" snow thrower became the 42" with the added side wings.

 

Here are the models that will work on the 416-H

Front quick hitch introduced in 1973. Snowthrower rear frame has a 5/8" diameter round bar.

1973-74 model 6-6212 plus 6-9113

1974 model 6-6213 - (First model to include 8-0221 extensions without the front straight return - just a flat plate)

1975 model 6-6214 - (First model to include 8-0221 [103552 replaced by 93-1617 and 93-1617-01] side extensions with the front straight return. First model to have a cable spool on chute rotating crank) Chute crank support decal 104461.

1976 model 6-6215 ------ Chute crank support decal 104461. This one -

1976 model 66-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one are likely identical. The model number format changed.

1977 model 76-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. This one

1978 model 86-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one

1979 model 96-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one may be all the same. They started using a different model number for each model year.

1980 model 06-42ST01 - (Last 42" model to use 4 grooved rollers for the chute)

1981-82 model 06-42ST02 - (First model to use plastic collar for the chute but was a retrofit for older models. Last model to use wheels)

1983 model 06-42ST03 - (First model to use skids)

1984-87 model 06-42ST04 - (Last model to use a 3/4" diameter driveshaft)

1987-89 model 06-42ST05 - (First model to use a 7/8" diameter driveshaft)

1990 model 06-42ST06 - (Last model to use a cable to turn the chute)

1991-93 model 06-42ST07 - (First model with tall chute retained by 3 individual grooved retainers)

1993-2001 model 79360 - (2001 and earlier will fit 2002-2007 with kit 105-1503) (1994 first year for replaceable blower housing scraper bar)

2002-2007 model 79362

[JerryLook 73]

Awesome. Thanks for all the model numbers.
I can see from the pics that the one blower still has the data plate attached. Maybe the other one does too and I can verify for sure one will fit. 

[Cee245 818]

@JerryLook 

regarding your edit up top about censorship... we aren't allowed to write swear words or john d$%%e on this site, I think.   if you say "green", they like it have the word "grass" after it. 

 

Lol, 😂 

Seriously, a great bunch of guys here... you came to the right place for help. 

[Cee245 818]

@JerryLook 

I prefer the tall chute single stage.  Ease of chute movement, will handle heavy snowfall and not too heavy like the 2 stage for your 416h.

 

My creds:

I use a 97 416h and own both a single tall chute and a 2 stage blower. The short chute will work, just prefer the tall chute... 

I live just east of Erie, PA where the "snow belt" is and we typically get well over 100" a year with "lake effect snow" ect.

[JerryLook 73]

8 minutes ago, Cee245 said:

@JerryLook 

regarding your edit up top about censorship... we aren't allowed to write swear words or john d$%%e on this site, I think.   if you say "green", they like it have the word "grass" after it. 

 

Lol, 😂 

Seriously, a great bunch of guys here... you came to the right place for help. 

Yeah it’s interesting. I wrote a word that means the same as “grab”, or “pick up quickly”. Different forums have different rules I guess. Or quirks.
There’s a farm tractor forum I’m on that won’t include any commas you use. I don’t know why. Just something I have to remember when writing posts. Haha. 
 

I agree there seems to be a good crowd here. Everyone has been very helpful 

[JerryLook 73]

Looking at the two snowblowers I posted, I take it the brighter red one has a short chute and the faded one has the tall chute you mentioned? 
 

Yes we get tons of lake affect snow here. I’m about 12 miles from Lake Ontario 

[roadapples 6,983]

Both pictures are short chute blowers. On your post number 19, the second picture is the older style...

[JerryLook 73]

1 hour ago, roadapples said:

Both pictures are short chute blowers. On your post number 19, the second picture is the older style...

The older style as far as the mounting system that won’t work with my 416?

[roadapples 6,983]

8 minutes ago, JerryLook said:

The older style as far as the mounting system that won’t work with my 416?

Not sure if the older style will bolt up to your tractor or not. The newer style hooks up directly to the front attach-amatic...

[Cee245 818]

As @roadapplessays, they are both short chute blowers. And I don't know if the older style bolts up either.

If each bolt up...(the newer style will)...They are fine, but I like 42" tall chute blowers.  These look a little more narrow, but they are basically all the same, except the larger wings that make 36" into 42" cutting width. 

[Handy Don 12,235]

Second one will not fit neatly. Bracket is longer, rod is too thin, and lift rod is not the right length. 

[squonk 41,150]

I'm right in between Rochester and Syracuse on the T way. You want the TALL chute blower! 

[JerryLook 73]

Good to know. Lol. Thanks. 
 

Ive been using my tractor with FEL in years past to remove snow. But sometimes I forget to plug in the block heater. 
Also I have a walk behind snow blower, but that’s hard for my wife to use. So I’m looking for something in between. I figure a Wheel Horse mounted snow blower should be perfect. 
 

I noticed on the two snowblowers I pictured above that they have holes for the extension wings, but the pieces aren’t actually there. For units that are missing them is it pretty easy to just fab up a couple pieces of steel or aluminum plate to use as wings? 

[Handy Don 12,235]

The wings are not elaborate and could be readily fabbed if you've got moderate skill and tools. They do have to be pretty sturdy metal. Maybe someone can measure and share the gauge/thickness.

BTW, I've seen owners take them off (or not install them) and have them sitting on a shelf or behind the tractor. Ask!

You can also put an ad here in the Classified/Wanted and get a response you like!

[JerryLook 73]

I’m not positive I would use the wings, I’d probably have to try it with and without them to see what I prefer. It’s just good to know they’re not made of unobtainium, and I could fab some up fairly easily. 

[JerryLook 73]

I was just reading this thread. Good to know there is a way to adapt the older snowblower to work. If I came across one in really good shape (and really cheap:)) 

 

 

 

[squonk 41,150]

There is a tall cute blower for sale on the North side of Oneida Lake on FB MP

[JerryLook 73]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

There is a tall cute blower for sale on the North side of Oneida Lake on FB MP

Is that the one listed in Constantia? I messaged that guy. I asked what type of mount it has on it.