MikesRJ 552 #26 Posted July 29, 2009 Mike I zipped the pictures to you, on the secod e-mail. buckrancher, I sure am glad you cleared that up for me, I thought I was loosing my eyesight. That is a pretty cool idea. Thanks guys. Mike please do send the link that you talked about. Terry, Got 'em. I'll make sure to give you credit for them. Thanks. I started the write-up section on page 2 and it'll be a work in progress for a while. Any and all comments about the content and text are welcome from your experiences as well (or anyone else who wants to throw in their two cents, just PM me). Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgranthamfd 29 #27 Posted August 2, 2009 Got the diff. torn apart, last night, found that 1 of the axle gears has 3 teeth that are chipped off. got a picture of it, but it wasn't focused real good. Question: are the alxe gears replaceable in singles or do I need to replace them as a pair. And what is a good way to get the bronze bushings out, without a special tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikesRJ 552 #28 Posted August 3, 2009 Try to post a picture, as a good welder may be able to repair it. They can be replaced as a single, but I don't know where you would find one though. Does anyone here got a part for him? He's looking for a WH P/N:3530 Axle Gear, Differential. Bronze bearings are best removed with a bearing chisel. You don't want to score the walls behind them. The tool looks like a T-shaped chisel and the back of the T is flat and goes against the wall when you use it. The leg of the T does the splitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgranthamfd 29 #29 Posted August 3, 2009 Got the bearings ordered, just need to find some of 1/16" spacers, they were all 5/16" thick. Got the diff. torn apart and the gear face smoothed out. I'll show the before and after of the diff. gear. Any input is welcomed. for looking. Before And after and the diff. bushings after removal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikesRJ 552 #30 Posted August 3, 2009 Nicely done, keep the pictures coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwgdog66 23 #31 Posted August 4, 2009 Got the diff. torn apart, last night, found that 1 of the axle gears has 3 teeth that are chipped off. got a picture of it, but it wasn't focused real good. Question: are the alxe gears replaceable in singles or do I need to replace them as a pair. And what is a good way to get the bronze bushings out, without a special tool. Big brother had a camera Here is the diff gear with the chipped teeth. Now to my defense, this picture was in focus in my bi-focals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikesRJ 552 #32 Posted August 4, 2009 You're right, I don't think I'd trust it either. You might want to take it to a welder and see what they say, But I would replace it to be on the safe side. Anyone else have an opinion here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coadster32 793 #33 Posted August 4, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, that gear has full outer engagement. If you're not going to beat on this tracotr, I say ease on down the road and use it. I put together a tranny with 75% of the gears meshing, and no problem. Depends on the application. I have an issue with welding them. If or when the edge chips off again, it has to go somewhere. If you weld it, you'll end up filing, or grinding the shape of the gear back. Being human, you'll get it close, but not perfect. I will get perfect by use. Guess what happends to the extra that gets worn down. Just my .02$ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgranthamfd 29 #34 Posted August 10, 2009 Hey guys, just wanted to let everyone in on a little trick, that seemed to help out on the old bearing removal, from the side plates. I got 1 bearing out last weekend, and fabed up a "special" tool. This weekend I grabbed up a zip lock bag and filled it with crushed ice, then sat it on the bearing I was working on and let it sit for about 30 to 45 mins. then popped the bearings right out. Ok OK I have 1 left that is being a real #&%@* but my "special tool" started bending on me. Hpoe this is some useful information for some of you. Thanks for reading. C Ya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgranthamfd 29 #35 Posted August 24, 2009 Got a few pics for ya. side plate axle play damage before and after. and after repaired Crappy axle tube cracked weld. after repaired Side plate in primer, getting closer. Thanks for looking, any input / advice is welcomed. Oh yeah, I may have found an online bearing source for that stupid 3/4 x 1-5/8 x 3/8 bearing. I stumbled across 4 possible cross numbers for the infamous WH #1502 bearing, if so they were about 5 to 6 dollars each. I will let you guys know when they come in. :thumbs2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgranthamfd 29 #36 Posted September 5, 2009 FYI on the bearings in question, 2 of the 4 cross numbers were avalibel and they are identicle to the one that was in the tranny. One is GENERAL #22603-01, the other is a SCHATZ / KIL. SR630. Actually, the one that came out is a NICE 412-35. Don't know if the tranny had been worked on before, or if some of these were assembled with other suppliers bearings in them. Next question is, in the last photo, are the caps on the end of the axle tube suposed to come off. The new seals I got, with a Toro number, look as if they SHOULD come off before putting the new ones on. I haven't tryed pulling on them yet. Got all the needed parts in this week and will be assembeling this weekend, or attempting to. :scratchead: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #37 Posted September 5, 2009 P.S. what type of lube really goes in this trany? Thanks in advance for your input and advise. Ummmm that ones easy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikesRJ 552 #38 Posted September 7, 2009 Ummmm that ones easy! Never mind the ubiquitous self promotion..... :ychain: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikesRJ 552 #39 Posted September 7, 2009 FYI on the bearings in question, 2 of the 4 cross numbers were avalibel and they are identicle to the one that was in the tranny. One is GENERAL #22603-01, the other is a SCHATZ / KIL. SR630. Actually, the one that came out is a NICE 412-35. Don't know if the tranny had been worked on before, or if some of these were assembled with other suppliers bearings in them. Next question is, in the last photo, are the caps on the end of the axle tube suposed to come off. The new seals I got, with a Toro number, look as if they SHOULD come off before putting the new ones on. I haven't tryed pulling on them yet. Got all the needed parts in this week and will be assembeling this weekend, or attempting to. The caps on the end of the axle tubes are the old seals. That should be removed, as well as replace the bronze bearings inside the tube, and the new seals installed over the ends of the axle tubes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgranthamfd 29 #40 Posted September 7, 2009 Yes, got the seal thing figured out. got it all cleaned up and together, went through all the gears, and had free spin neutral at the out put shaft, as well as, turning the output shaft turned the axle. Got it all primed, too. Ran out of time or it would be red. Mike got a couple more assembly pictures for you if you need any. Here they are. Just hope everything turns out ok, this is my first tranny rebuild. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikesRJ 552 #41 Posted September 13, 2009 Is that thing painted yet? :scratchead: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgranthamfd 29 #42 Posted September 13, 2009 Is that thing painted yet? Mike it has got some red on it along with some dings where it fell from the little ricketty stand I had it hanging on, no real damage. I posted the red tranny over in the work in progress thread along with a couple more. Think I going to haul the K91 out to spray some tins today. Maybe :ychain: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikesRJ 552 #43 Posted September 13, 2009 Well, truth be known, I too had a small mishap with a painted and freshly finished in clear-coat seat pan. I swear that fresh paint attracts flying objects! As I was moving around the shop I fumbled with a large wrench, which miraculously attracted itself directly to the seat pan, and it proceeded to clatter around all over it for a while until making its way to the floor. This left a dozen chipped spots and scratches all over the top, and of course, forcing me to completely refinish the damn thing again from bare metal. Can't wait to see the rest of your pics. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coadster32 793 #44 Posted September 14, 2009 Good job on the tranny. Did I miss something, or did you reuse some of the slightly worn gears? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgranthamfd 29 #45 Posted September 14, 2009 Good job on the tranny. Did I miss something, or did you reuse some of the slightly worn gears? Hey Chris, I did reuse all of the gears, just cleaned up the faces on the differential gear set and left all other meshing gears as they were. Bearings, bushings, seals, gaskets, oil, and some new pait. Got the brake band cleaned up and painted last night, as well. Thanks for that, by the way. I have been bouncing back and forth between this post and the work in progress post. It all rolls around as it should, but it is really tight rolling backwards in neutral, I may have not gotten the diff bushings cut down exactly even, figured it would wear down some when I get some power bolted to it so I can drive it around. It's tight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
