ri702bill 8,327 #76 Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) @dmoore@Handy Don I have no clue - that is not my tractor, just the HY2 unit is...I have a 6-12 set similar to that and they are Firestone Town & Country "snow tires" I believe that Miller Tire sells a reproduction version, but you better have deep pockets to buy them ... Edited May 19, 2022 by ri702bill 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,235 #77 Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) I have these very similar BF Goodrich Silvertowns 6-12 that I'll be using. They are also pretty nice but not quite as detailed a tread. Harder rubber than snow tires, IMHO. Edited May 19, 2022 by Handy Don 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #78 Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ri702bill said: Firestone Town & Country "snow tires" I went to a local Home & Auto store with my father-in-Law for his 702 back in the 1980's - they were on sale at the end of winter and marketed as a small car snow tire. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,590 #79 Posted May 19, 2022 Remember that the definition of a snow tire has changed a little bit over the last 60 years and also that those tires are aged which rubber harder. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,297 #80 Posted May 19, 2022 5 hours ago, ebinmaine said: tires are aged which rubber harder. EB, you are being too kind. They are PETRIFIED! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,968 #81 Posted May 19, 2022 23 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Do you know what year they started printing "Wheel Horse" on the tires? Not sure but 1965 was when I recall seeing them on those model tractors. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,590 #82 Posted May 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Lane Ranger said: Not sure but 1965 was when I recall seeing them on those model tractors. Trina has a set here that were removed from a (('67??)). Look decent. We'll check 'em for weathering and re-home them. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 824 #83 Posted May 20, 2022 So I decided to do a little more disassembly today. I was curious what the trans oil looked like. I got my answer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,590 #84 Posted May 22, 2022 23 hours ago, dmoore said: No from my phone Any videos posted should be from YouTube. It uses MUCH less space for the site @nylyon could explain better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,620 #86 Posted May 22, 2022 Its like the water fountain at Caesars Palace ! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,150 #87 Posted May 22, 2022 More like the Chocolate Moose fountain at Golden Corral!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 824 #88 Posted May 22, 2022 And crystal clear. The tractor was inside for a long time. It got caught in a deluge being transported to me. A couple of gear oil flushes and it will be good as new. During the short run after getting it started it shifted and rode fine. Indestructible. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 824 #89 Posted May 22, 2022 20220522_191921.heicFilnally got a chance to disassemble the old 854 today. Everything came apart perfectly. Now to media blast it all and get it in etch primer. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 824 #90 Posted May 23, 2022 So while tearing down this lil tractor I noticed there were 2 roll pins securing the steering arm to the spindle. At first I was baffled. Then I looked at the parts breakdown and sure enough, there they were. A 1/4 & 5/16 roll pin. Anyone know why?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,759 #91 Posted May 23, 2022 Sometimes WH put one roll pin inside another ….possible for increased shear strength. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 824 #92 Posted May 23, 2022 Interesting, thank you for that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,235 #93 Posted May 23, 2022 8 hours ago, oliver2-44 said: Sometimes WH put one roll pin inside another ….possible for increased shear strength. Also so that shear forces could not compress the outer roll pin (they are hollow, after all). Compression would permit movement of the joint. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,297 #94 Posted May 23, 2022 10 hours ago, dmoore said: I noticed there were 2 roll pins securing the steering arm to the spindle Driving the 1/4" roll pin out of the center of the 5/16" can bee a chore but it sure did make sure the pin wouldn't come out while you were driving. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #96 Posted May 23, 2022 The pin inside a pin is sometimes seen on the lower steering shaft to hold the sector gear - you need excellent shear resistance there. I have had good success replacing the 2 pin setup with the proper size & length coiled pin (aka Spirol Pin). 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #97 Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) The frame looks nice and straight. How are the 4 Unidrive holes - any cracks? What about play or wear in the clutch shaft thru the frame - it is steel on steel, no bushings unless you add them. Edited May 23, 2022 by ri702bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,327 #98 Posted May 23, 2022 What about excessive play in the front axle / spindles?? Both worn axle bores and worn spindles can be fixed - the axle can be drilled and reamed for bronze bushings; the spindles can have worn areas welded to build up material and finish shape them. Had to do both on the 502. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,088 #99 Posted May 23, 2022 11 hours ago, dmoore said: So while tearing down this lil tractor I noticed there were 2 roll pins securing the steering arm to the spindle. At first I was baffled. Then I looked at the parts breakdown and sure enough, there they were. A 1/4 & 5/16 roll pin. Anyone know why?? Actually they are a 5/32" inside a 1/4" unless someone drilled them out. I didn't realize they showed the two of them on the parts list until just now. I had some slop on the left side of my 854 and just a few days I replaced the pins. There was only a 1/4" in each side. I did the double thing. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,150 #100 Posted May 23, 2022 Roll pin service bulletin. I did this on @clueless 704 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
