dmoore 826 #26 Posted May 17, 2022 Is this pump supposed to have an actuating lever or is it work off of crankcase vacuum? It's been over 45 years since I fooled with these small 8 horsepower engines 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,672 #27 Posted May 17, 2022 44 minutes ago, dmoore said: Is this pump supposed to have an actuating lever or is it work off of crankcase vacuum? It's been over 45 years since I fooled with these small 8 horsepower engines That could very well be a crank case pressure activated pump. Trina has one on her 867. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #28 Posted May 17, 2022 I thought so...Back together she goes. If she doesn't start later this evening I will check for pump operation. Thanks EB! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,672 #29 Posted May 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, dmoore said: I thought so...Back together she goes. If she doesn't start later this evening I will check for pump operation. Thanks EB! I'm not familiar with the vertical location of the gas tank on those. I know on the ones that are slightly later, the tank is high enough that it will gravity feed fuel down even if the fuel pump is not working. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,350 #30 Posted May 17, 2022 Yup it will work IF the check valves are not stuck. Tank needs to be filled - less than half it will run dry IF you bypass the pump completely and run it like a Model T Ford!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,162 #31 Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, dmoore said: So now we know why it was parked That's a vacuum fuel pump. No lever 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,623 #32 Posted May 17, 2022 I would also change the fuel line. I cut the rubber line off my 856 project and out poured what looked like sand or saw dust. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,672 #33 Posted May 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, squonk said: vacuum fuel pump @buckrancher Brian still sell the new diaphragms? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #34 Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, D_Mac said: I would also change the fuel line. I cut the rubber line off my 856 project and out poured what looked like sand or saw dust. The fuel hose from the tank to the carb is not that old I got some 110 Sunoco in there Edited May 17, 2022 by dmoore 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #35 Posted May 17, 2022 Original Kohler generator belt 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHGuy413 2,710 #36 Posted May 18, 2022 Beautiful machine right there! One of my bucket list tractors. I’m sure it will be up and running in no time. It will definitely look great all done up nice. When I first started I thought they all needed to be restored but as of late I have been on keep them original kick and the boys and I officially can say we have 4 original tractors. Any that I restored were basket cases anyway so they needed. Can’t wait to see the progress on this one. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #37 Posted May 18, 2022 Thanks WHGuy So I got it running tonight but only while the key is held in the start position. Bad run side of switch?? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,325 #38 Posted May 18, 2022 9 hours ago, dmoore said: running tonight but only while the key is held in the start position. Bad run side of switch?? Could be the switch is bad or it could be in need of some TLC. There is a contact plate that rotates with the key, some stationary contacts and small springs and some grease inside the housing. The old grease could be hardened to the point the springs can't function to make contact. Carefully bend the tabs on the switch housing to allow the plate with the connection tabs to be removed, spray some electrical contact cleaner in there and see if you can free things up. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #39 Posted May 18, 2022 Nice 854 & definitely a favored tractor around here. On the tank expect it to weep a little as the gasket dries out with no gas in it. sometimes they quit leaking after adding gas sometimes they don't. once you get into the resto be very careful if you try to remove the screws. Aluminum tank + steel screws = dissimilar metals corrosion and you can twist them right off. Gently try tightening them a very little bit first if you go the removal route. Kev"s idea is best with the tank sealer kit although new gaskets are around for it. Guessing KBS works on AL tanks @Pullstart ? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,918 #40 Posted May 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Guessing KBS works on AL tanks @Pullstart ? absolutely! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #41 Posted May 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Nice 854 & definitely a favored tractor around here. On the tank expect it to weep a little as the gasket dries out with no gas in it. sometimes they quit leaking after adding gas sometimes they don't. once you get into the resto be very careful if you try to remove the screws. Aluminum tank + steel screws = dissimilar metals corrosion and you can twist them right off. Gently try tightening them a very little bit first if you go the removal route. Kev"s idea is best with the tank sealer kit although new gaskets are around for it. Guessing KBS works on AL tanks @Pullstart ? I filled the tank last night before I started it. Checked this morning, dry as a bone. I will probably take it apart during the tear down and re-gasket it. And I def thought about the dissimilar metals! Thanks 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #42 Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, dmoore said: Checked this morning, dry as a bone. Excellent you may have lucked out. Sometimes when the gasket sees the new gas it will expand and seal.... keep an eye on it. You might notice some weeping. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,672 #43 Posted May 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, dmoore said: re-gasket It's possible I'd be prone to leaving that right alone unless it started to leak..... 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #44 Posted May 18, 2022 I asked a few threads back but do you guy's know if the original type front & rear tires are still available? And if so please post a link. Thanks! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,237 #45 Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, dmoore said: I asked a few threads back but do you guy's know if the original type front & rear tires are still available? And if so please post a link. Thanks! Exact originals, not that I've been able to find. I went with a pretty close substitute by Carlisle, their "Sawtooth" model. Only difference I could detect was more closely-spaced side scalloping at the edge of the tread (and no more dry rot bulges). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #46 Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) Yes, I had looked at them..close. How about the rears, that odd tread pattern...I have entertained this combo as well. Edited May 18, 2022 by dmoore Correction 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #47 Posted May 18, 2022 It's def more of an aggressive look! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,968 #48 Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) My 854 has DeeStones on the front and (Carlisle in early pics on back) Firestone sawtooth on the back. Edited May 18, 2022 by Lane Ranger 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,237 #49 Posted May 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, dmoore said: How about the rears, that odd tread pattern...I have entertained this combo as well I've kept the Firestone "All purpose" garden tractor tires it came to me wearing and, frankly, I like that look and they do the job. The tires and wheels must have been taken off and stored early on and only put back on to sell the machine since they have practically no wear, just some weather/age cracks, and are still holding air. The paint on the wheels was shot but it looked like weathering you'd get from covered outdoor storage and not wear and tear. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 826 #50 Posted May 18, 2022 Okay that's your tractor Lane Ranger wow! She is sure sharp I'd like the cleat tires on the back but I don't think I could do clean on the front as well I don't know maybe just me 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
