C120 PTO brake

[Goldnboy 926]

I was going over this C120 auto I acquired from @RandyL on Saturday it dawned on the the PTO brake is missing.  Is this something modified to remove the brake? But it looks like the original style pto bracket. I did notice upon inspection that the pto bell was upgraded to the pto stub staff like the 300/400 series with inner and outer snap rings to eliminate the internal spring, thrust washer and bearing setup.

Edited May 2, 2022 by Goldnboy
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[ri702bill 8,327]

A lot of folks just leave the brake off - they can be difficult to get a decent adjustment ...

Bill

[peter lena 8,634]

@Goldnboy  agree with @ri702bill  on the brake removal , very easy at that point to , remove that pto cone , wipe out the inside needle bearing , and lightly re lubricate it with , lucas  X-TRA HEAVY DUTY GREASE , walmart $ 7 , hi temp 560 deg, anti sling , polyurea rated , will make that bearing live in smooth quiet function . notice your pto lever quadrant , could use a couple of washers and a shot of lube , also your lift arm , cross shaft mount area , is dry for lubricant . only a recommendation  on the lube , but better than rust , keep it greasy , pete 

[ebinmaine 67,592]

8 hours ago, ri702bill said:

A lot of folks just leave the brake off - they can be difficult to get a decent adjustment ...

Bill

Agreed. No brake on my 2 with a PTO. 74 C160-8 and a 75 C160 Automatic. 

 

The PTO spins until it stops. Then it isn't spinning anymore. 

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[Handy Don 12,235]

First time I tried to adjust that brake I thought I'd completely lost my mechanical touch. I just couldn't get it. Eventually, though, I was successful. I don't want to say it is "hit or miss" but it will always take two or three attempts to get it.

[JoeM 7,874]

I figure WH's attempt to have a blade brake? Anemic at best. Needed to be three times the size. 

I like them on....keeps things from rattling to much. 

When I install, engage the PTO and slip a .014 filler between the brake and drum ring. Snug up the bolts. Seems to work. I have used anywhere from .010 to .014.gauges. 

[Lee1977 6,664]

Mine are all still in place but I keep them backed out between 1/16" to 1/8" so they never work as a break. Two of my tractor have the mower deck on year around so they don't turn after shutting down the 48" deck.

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

One thing to keep in mind is the fact that the only thing holding the PTO pulley in place when the hoop is open is the brake bracket. (and implement drive belts)

 

If you don't have a brake bracket in place then never start the engine with the hoop open and no implement drive belt installed !

 

I don't think you would want to be around if that pulley came flying off with the engine running!

 

 

Edited May 3, 2022 by Jeff-C175

[Goldnboy 926]

Thanks for the lubrication info @peter lena

I am in the process of doing maintenance, changed engine oil and transmission oil which had a original wheelhorse filter on it.

 

I used the oil from engine and transmission to coat the top and bottoms of my deck so I do reuse my oil!

[peter lena 8,634]

@Goldenboy  , when you oil lubricate /  feed the underside of your deck , in addition to pre cleaning all the crud out , once its oil soaked , prop the deck up on its lift carriage ,  like a 45 degree to the sun . I  have a  2 x 6  that holds it at a perfect angle to the sun , that lets the deck get hot  , and really draw in the lubricant. once you start to do that on a regular basis . especially in the off season , the metal will get black stained  , and help kill off the grunge. been doing that for years , no deck rot at all , pete