Would you buy these? 2 WH for $200 :-O

[davem1111 2,030]

1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said:

Absolutely! Just let me know! Yours definitely looks fixable to me. I think it would turn out pretty swell.

 

If you decide to fix it, just hit me up in PM, I'll let you know when I can meet you to get it. I go into Columbus all the time for groceries and such.

 

Regards,

 

Don

 

Cool!   I don't get over to Columbus very often, but occasionally.   It's about an hour and 15 minutes from me.  I go to Louisville periodically for work, and it's not much longer going that way than down through Paoli on the back roads.

[davem1111 2,030]

5 hours ago, Handy Don said:

If you get a minute, could you post a video of the Honda running? I'm interested in hearing if that muffler really tones it down compared to the Onan and Kohler twins.

 

 

See if you can view/listen to this:   https://youtu.be/y3jbfnsyMQA

 

It's on my personal YouTube channel, and is set to "Private". Just a bit of the Honda engine running...

[Snoopy11 5,714]

2 minutes ago, davem1111 said:

 

See if you can view/listen to this:   https://youtu.be/y3jbfnsyMQA

 

It's on my personal YouTube channel, and is set to "Private". Just a bit of the Honda engine running...

I can view it!

 

Don

[balconio 606]

1 hour ago, davem1111 said:

Third,  I asked the guy about the lift, since I've never had one with a hydraulic lift.  He said he only used the rear deck wheels, didn't even realize there was any other lift method. So far I don't even see a control for it.  Looking for the manuals but in the meantime, how does this lift work?  And I'm very happy to have an Eaton 1100, and it makes me want to put on a 3-point hitch and lots of other goodies. But I may not get that far - who knows.

 

congrats on the Eaton 1100. that's industrial strength right there, bulletproof so long as you keep it cool i've heard. i never had one but i think the hydraulic lift is that short lever on the left hand side of the dash? you might be able to trace hydraulic lines to it- you'll know for sure once you get it running.

[balconio 606]

my goodness sorry for the double posts... not my day sheesh. i watched the video. the honda sounds STRONG! my key switch is getting flaky. i have to jiggle it to kill the engine sometimes.

Edited May 4, 2022 by balconio
double post

[davem1111 2,030]

2 hours ago, balconio said:

congrats on the Eaton 1100. that's industrial strength right there, bulletproof so long as you keep it cool i've heard. i never had one but i think the hydraulic lift is that short lever on the left hand side of the dash? you might be able to trace hydraulic lines to it- you'll know for sure once you get it running.

 

Yep,  I see that handle now.  Didn't see it while the tractor was running. Next time I fire it up I'll see if that works.  No deck on it now but I can watch the arm underneath.

[davem1111 2,030]

Mixed luck with the "new" decks.  Both are 48" cut.  Oddly, the best of the 2 was on the 416-8 that doesn't look like it has run in 10-15 years (or more).  

 

I thought I'd sharpen the blades on the better deck because they were pretty dull. Took them off and found that one spindle was missing the washer under the blade, and the blade has been slopping around and wore into the shaft on the spindle. 

 

 

 

Luckily I have another old 42" deck that I think is beyond being worth repairing (at least in my case with all these decks) so I'm going to pull a spindle off that when I get time. This nicer 48" deck is going to be worth a full refurb I think.

[Handy Don 12,217]

The Honda sounds just fine and a bit quieter than the Onan, IMHO. Oughta be a lot of fun.

Thanks for the video.

[Snoopy11 5,714]

17 hours ago, davem1111 said:

This nicer 48" deck is going to be worth a full refurb I think

Oh yeah, should be fun. If memory serves me correctly, @Jeff-C175 and @Horse Newbie have some good experience with decks?

 

Don

[Snoopy11 5,714]

Oh, BTW, those big v twins do use a lot of fuel... unfortunately...

 

Don

[davem1111 2,030]

18 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

Oh, BTW, those big v twins do use a lot of fuel... unfortunately...

 

Don

 

I already have the 16hp Onan, but really haven't run it much so I don't have any comparison other than the single cylinder 12hp Kohler.  I guess when it comes down to it, for my needs I don't care as much about fuel economy as other things.  I don't *want* to burn more gas but if I'm running a gasoline engine, I will be.  A bit more?  ... ah well...    If somebody wants to give me the parts, I'll gladly convert to electric. 

 

BTW, that was another thing I picked up from the guy I got the tractors from.  He had about 15 electric motors - I bought the two that looked best to me, but not the biggest...   I can use them for testing, or maybe I can run my WH around with a really long extension cord attached?   

 

Hah! -  I just had an image come to me of putting the 110v electric motor on a tractor, and pulling a trailer with a generator to power the motor! 

Edited May 5, 2022 by davem1111

[Snoopy11 5,714]

1 hour ago, davem1111 said:

I don't *want* to burn more gas but if I'm running a gasoline engine, I will be

Well, rich is better than lean. But... in my opinion, you would see various signs of that later on in your rebuild if it was rich. I don't think those have an adjustable carb anyway... if memory serves me correctly...

 

Don

[Snoopy11 5,714]

1 hour ago, davem1111 said:

f somebody wants to give me the parts, I'll gladly convert to electric. 

 

BTW, that was another thing I picked up from the guy I got the tractors from.  He had about 15 electric motors - I bought the two that looked best to me, but not the biggest...   I can use them for testing, or maybe I can run my WH around with a really long extension cord attached?   

 

Hah! -  I just had an image come to me of putting the 110v electric motor on a tractor, and pulling a trailer with a generator to power the motor!

Seriously, there is a guy on the forum doing this kind of stuff.

 

@Evguy ...what say you sir?

 

Don

[davem1111 2,030]

5 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

Seriously, there is a guy on the forum doing this kind of stuff.

 

@Evguy ...what say you sir?

 

Don

 

Oh yeah, I have seen some of what @Evguy has done - very impressive!  And I'm guessing, quite expensive, unless you are already involved in EV stuff and have parts on hand.  It would be fun, but I don't have a budget for hardware unless maybe I trade off some of the stuff I just picked up. 

 

[kpinnc 12,025]

3 hours ago, davem1111 said:

I already have the 16hp Onan,

 

I don't think that Honda will burn more fuel than your Onan. Probably more than the K301, but nowhere as bad as an Onan.

[Handy Don 12,217]

12 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

 

I don't think that Honda will burn more fuel than your Onan. Probably more than the K301, but nowhere as bad as an Onan.

The Honda is an OHV engine so much more fuel efficient for its power output and runs cleaner to boot.

[Evguy 556]

4 hours ago, davem1111 said:

 

Oh yeah, I have seen some of what @Evguy has done - very impressive!  And I'm guessing, quite expensive, unless you are already involved in EV stuff and have parts on hand.  It would be fun, but I don't have a budget for hardware unless maybe I trade off some of the stuff I just picked up. 

 

 Going electric can get pricey, especially the batteries. Congratulations on your purchase, my doner gt1848 with blown engine was more than 200, you did well. 
 

[balconio 606]

On 5/4/2022 at 7:58 PM, davem1111 said:

I thought I'd sharpen the blades on the better deck because they were pretty dull. Took them off and found that one spindle was missing the washer under the blade, and the blade has been slopping around and wore into the shaft on the spindle. 

 

i have this exact same problem on a 42" SD deck, where the base of the spindle shaft is wallowed out and the threads are gone. i thought about trying to weld/grind to build it back up but i'm not sure i can be precise enough. i might try some Steel Stik putty and a wet finger to sculpt it smooth though

[davem1111 2,030]

On 5/4/2022 at 7:58 PM, davem1111 said:

I thought I'd sharpen the blades on the better deck because they were pretty dull. Took them off and found that one spindle was missing the washer under the blade, and the blade has been slopping around and wore into the shaft on the spindle. 

1 hour ago, balconio said:

i have this exact same problem on a 42" SD deck, where the base of the spindle shaft is wallowed out and the threads are gone. i thought about trying to weld/grind to build it back up but i'm not sure i can be precise enough. i might try some Steel Stik putty and a wet finger to sculpt it smooth though

 

 

That sounds like it might be a workable approach.  Although, it seems like a less desirable approach than either replacing the spindle with a "known good" used spindle, or a new one.  Haven't priced the new ones lately but I'm thinking it's around $100 for a new set of 3.  I'd rather not spend that now, when I have usable ones around.

 

That said,  can someone please give some pointers on removing old deck spindles?  I've gone over the manuals, and it's not 100% clear to me.

 

Once the blade nut and blade are removed, and the nut on top of the pulley is removed, do you need to use a puller to remove the pulley?  Or are you supposed to immobilize the pulley and turn the nut that was under the blade? I'm not sure if I'm just dealing with rust here, but these things seem to be nearly impossible to remove (well, impossible so far...).  (Obviously you need to remove the 4 bolts holding the actual spindle body to the deck, but that doesn't help with the pulley still on it.)

 

 

 

 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

56 minutes ago, davem1111 said:

can someone please give some pointers on removing old deck spindles?

@ebinmaine @Pullstart... you guys got anything on this?

 

Not something that I have done.

 

Don

[ebinmaine 67,485]

2 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

@ebinmaine @Pullstart... you guys got anything on this?

 

Not something that I have done.

 

Don

Not I Sir. 

We don't use a Horse for mowin'.  

[Handy Don 12,217]

1 hour ago, davem1111 said:

 

That said,  can someone please give some pointers on removing old deck spindles?  I've gone over the manuals, and it's not 100% clear to me.

I've only done this once. I used a puller on the pulley after leaving it soaking in penetrant for a couple of weeks (I had actually put it aside and forgot about it for most of that time).

[Snoopy11 5,714]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

We don't use a Horse for mowin'

Forgive my curiosity, dear sir... but... what... do you... use... then?

 

BBT swing a scythe...?

 

Don

[ebinmaine 67,485]

5 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

Forgive my curiosity, dear sir... but... what... do you... use... then?

 

BBT swing a scythe...?

 

Don

Yeah that's it.

I do actually have three or four decks here. I know at least one of them will cut and function.

Fact is, our little hillside terrain acreage here doesn't have any place broad or flat enough that a writing style mowing utensil would be very useful. 

We have a push mower. We still go with old machinery though being in possession of a 20 or 30 year old Snapper push mower.

 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

20 or 30 year old Snapper push mower

I have a self propelled walking mower... although... it is only used on 1 place on the property (behind the dam of the pond).

 

Problem is... half the time... it doesn't work... so I am propelling it back to the shop for repairs. Plastic carb, el-cheapo engine... etc.

 

I need to get a BBT with a scythe is what I need...

 

Don