davem1111 2,030 #1 Posted May 1, 2022 Had some little niggling feeling that I should look at Craigslist, and saw an ad for both of these tractors for $200: I'm not very familiar with the Work Horse models. Ad says it ran recently but not now, may just need a battery. I'm puzzled about the 416-8 because he says it has a Kohler engine. Mine has an Onan. Did they make some with Kohlers? I called and left a voice mail... I was ready to pay almost that much for a pair of used rear Ags with rims. Looks like the seats are in good shape too. I'm thinking I'd keep those and maybe a few other choice parts, and part out & sell the rest. Thoughts? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,209 #2 Posted May 1, 2022 Run, don't walk. 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,235 #3 Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) Yes, run. Some 416's had Kohler one-cylinder 16 and some had Onan P216 twins. The Work Horse in the picture has been repowered, I suspect, with a Briggs Vanguard. If in good shape, these are a nice OHV engine. Edited May 1, 2022 by Handy Don 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 2,030 #4 Posted May 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Handy Don said: Yes, run. Some 416's had Kohler one-cylinder 16 and some had Onan P216 twins. The Work Horse in the picture has been repowered, I suspect, with a Briggs Vanguard. If in good shape, these are a nice OHV engine. Sent an email also. Do you think both of these would fit in the back of a pickup truck with the tailgate down? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,598 #5 Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, davem1111 said: Sent an email also. Do you think both of these would fit in the back of a pickup truck with the tailgate down? Got them yet? For that price they'd fit in the back of my pocket... If you need help call @Pullstart... He'd get three more on top these two... Edited May 1, 2022 by SylvanLakeWH 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #6 Posted May 1, 2022 I hope you don't get scammed buddy. Lot's of that SH!T goes on in Indiana... @davem1111 be careful! Don 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 2,030 #7 Posted May 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Got them yet? For that price they'd fit in the back of my pocket... If you need help call @Pullstart... He'd get three more indoor truck on top these two... The guy isn't responding - I hope that doesn't mean he sold them already! Yeah, I have a pickup truck that has seen better days and I don't trust for a 75 mile drive, so I need to rent one, and don't want to rent a trailer too.... although, if not running I'll need to use the winch to get them up ramps into the truck. Hoping they are still available... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 2,030 #8 Posted May 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said: I hope you don't get scammed buddy. Lot's of that SH!T goes on in Indiana... @davem1111 be careful! Don I'll be careful. If he wants a $20 deposit to hold for driving time, maybe I'd do that but that's about as much as I'm willing to lose if it's a scam. I don't get that feeling though. Sounds like the guy just wants them gone. We shall see. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,235 #9 Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, davem1111 said: Sent an email also. Do you think both of these would fit in the back of a pickup truck with the tailgate down? Both are heavy (500-600 lbs) and are about 5' long and 35-40" wide. Not easy to put two in a pickup truck unless you have an FEL or other equipment to put one sideways with the wheels up on the side of the bed box. Trailer + your truck? Edited May 1, 2022 by Handy Don 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #10 Posted May 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, davem1111 said: The guy isn't responding Well... Craiglist stuff... is... eh... well... dangerous... Good luck... but I'm still wary... (I've been in your very same shoes several times before)... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 2,030 #11 Posted May 1, 2022 FYI, this is what the ad says, and there are 3 pictures - 1 of both tractors, one of the 416-8 Kohler engine, and one of the Honda engine. This doesn't sound "scammy" to me, but people are getting trickier all the time: "Two riding lawn mowers for the price of one. Both are Wheel Horse brand name. The first one is model # GT-1848. with 18 HP Honda engine. Automatic start. 48" wide cut. It did run not too long ago but not currently. Might just need a new battery. The second riding lawn mower is just for parts. Model # 416-8. 16 HP. Kohler motor. 48" wide cut. Questions? Call [number in Indy]" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunahead72 2,424 #12 Posted May 1, 2022 51 minutes ago, davem1111 said: Is that a Briggs & Stratton tag on the flywheel screen? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor27 769 #13 Posted May 1, 2022 I'd be all over that! do you have a home depot that rents trucks? A flatbed should load both. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,235 #14 Posted May 1, 2022 Just now, Thor27 said: I'd be all over that! do you have a home depot that rents trucks? A flatbed should load both. You'll need a ramp to load them, though, and a winch or come-along. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,235 #15 Posted May 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, davem1111 said: FYI, this is what the ad says, and there are 3 pictures - 1 of both tractors, one of the 416-8 Kohler engine, and one of the Honda engine. This doesn't sound "scammy" to me, but people are getting trickier all the time: "Two riding lawn mowers for the price of one. Both are Wheel Horse brand name. The first one is model # GT-1848. with 18 HP Honda engine. Automatic start. 48" wide cut. It did run not too long ago but not currently. Might just need a new battery. The second riding lawn mower is just for parts. Model # 416-8. 16 HP. Kohler motor. 48" wide cut. Questions? Call [number in Indy]" It sounds worth investing some time as long as there is no request for a "deposit" or "earnest" money. "Ran not too long ago" unspoken next sentence might be "until the engine seized", right? But sometimes the bargain is real and if you don't go look you don't get it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor27 769 #16 Posted May 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, tunahead72 said: Is that a Briggs & Stratton tag on the flywheel screen? Sure does, but those look more like honda than vanguard tins? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor27 769 #17 Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) I'd gamble $200 on an eaton 11 especially since there are 2 decks too Edited May 1, 2022 by Thor27 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan.gerous 2,696 #18 Posted May 1, 2022 You guys in the US are so lucky!! I wouldn't even hesitate at $200 - over here the prices seem crazy. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 2,030 #19 Posted May 1, 2022 33 minutes ago, Handy Don said: You'll need a ramp to load them, though, and a winch or come-along. I have a pair of ramps, a 2000 lb 12v winch, and a come-along. I think I can get them into a truck, trailer would be easier... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 2,030 #20 Posted May 1, 2022 29 minutes ago, Thor27 said: I'd gamble $200 on an eaton 11 especially since there are 2 decks too Exactly. If I can get these, the parts I was going to buy anyway would offset the cost, and one part sale should cover the truck rental. Then it's all icing on the cake. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,011 #21 Posted May 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, Thor27 said: I'd be all over that! Like Ophra on a baked ham! That Honda engine alone is worth more than $200 if it runs. Wish I kept the one I had. Probably should've posted this after you got'm. By now the vultures have circled that seller and have made all kinds of offers 2 1 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,905 #22 Posted May 1, 2022 Good luck with your deal! I have fit 4 Horses into my 5’ bed Colorado… but these are bigger and heavier and have decks too. I’m not sure I’d try to get ‘em into a pickup bed together. Signed, the Horse Loader Himself. 3 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,601 #23 Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Snoopy11 said: Well... Craiglist stuff... is... eh... well... dangerous. As long as you keep things cash on delivery there is never a problem. This is what I expect from a CL buyer. Hand me cash when you come to pick the item up. I also extend this same curtesy to a CL seller. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 2,030 #24 Posted May 1, 2022 I've always been one of those people who tends to not get excited about anything, so I'm not very disappointed when things don't work out. The lack of response from the seller so far has got me thinking either this was a "too good to be true" scam or someone has beat me to it. I think if I had seen this listing earlier (CL is now saying it was listed "about 8 hours ago"), since it's Sunday and I'd probably not be able to rent a truck today, I would have given the old 1990 F-250 a chance to show me that she still had it in her to make the trip. I'm going to be quite bummed out if I can't buy these. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,620 #25 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 416-8 with 16hp Kohler. One of my favorite all time tractors. Tell them you will give him 300 for them and get them asap. Edited May 2, 2022 by D_Mac 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites