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Rob J.

I’m sure this is done all the time but my attempt to brighten up the bucket. I used aluminum pipe tape. Have some 6000 lumen LED’s going in. Should be bright. 

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WHX??

@Achto just did a resto on one and used a chrome plating paint of sorts on it. 

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I tried polishing one once but didn’t have the right tool to get in there for a shine finnish. 

 

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ebinmaine

Nice work Rob!

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Maxwell-8
12 hours ago, Rob J. said:

I’m sure this is done all the time but my attempt to brighten up the bucket. I used aluminum pipe tape. Have some 6000 lumen LED’s going in. Should be bright. 

 

 

Looks great! 

just a question do those led's have cooling fans? If they really are 6000lumens, that would draw around 600w from the electrical system and would be generating a lot of heat.

 

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Handy Don
1 hour ago, Maxwell-8 said:

 

Looks great! 

just a question do those led's have cooling fans? If they really are 6000lumens, that would draw around 600w from the electrical system and would be generating a lot of heat.

 

I think with an LED this would be more like 50 watts @ 12v. So about 4 amps. But if it is only a 3 amp charging circuit, it will be a net drain on the battery.

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ebinmaine
4 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

I think with an LED this would be more like 50 watts @ 12v. So about 4 amps. But if it is only a 3 amp charging circuit, it will be a net drain on the battery.

He's got a '73 with a Kohler 8 so it likely has a 15 amp output. 

Should be good 👍👍

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WHX??
1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

Should be good

Way good ... my measurements on led bulbs show they draw alot less than what guys think they do. Since one can't really read resistance on them and plug that into Ohm's law the only way to know is actually measure the amp draw. They really do throw a monkey wrench at Mr Ohm since there is no way that I know of to convert lumens to amps. Remember they are rated in EQUIVELENT watts so the rated wattage is useless as far as using it in math. 

You ever got nothing better to do @squonk bust out yer Fluke and see what yours draw. 

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JoeM
2 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Ohm's law

Uncle Jim these youngins have no idea watt youre talking about. If it aint on a smartphone ain't happening! LOL :handgestures-thumbup:

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WHX??
Just now, JoeM said:

 no idea watt youre talking about. 

Well watt the hell?!?!? .... :lol:

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ebinmaine
10 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

no way that I know of to convert lumens to amps

To confuse that even further...

I've read that "lumens" does actually have a definite number but the rating is grossly over exaggerated by many sellers.   

 

 

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WHX??
Just now, ebinmaine said:

over exaggerated by many sellers.

True ... many manufactures like to blow their own horn. 

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SylvanLakeWH
20 minutes ago, JoeM said:

Uncle Jim these youngins have no idea watt youre talking about. If it aint on a smartphone ain't happening! LOL :handgestures-thumbup:

 

18 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Well watt the hell?!?!? .... :lol:

 

13 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

To confuse that even further...

I've read that "lumens" does actually have a definite number but the rating is grossly over exaggerated by many sellers.   

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

True ... many manufactures like to blow their own horn. 


An Illuminating Saturday Morning Haiku…

 

ohms watts lumens amps

we need to go and ask gramps

just turn on the lights

 

:scared-shocked:

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Lee1977

From what I can find I don't think any of the 1156 led blubs pull as much as 1 amp. I found one that was .0.58 amp. calming 6500 K.

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Horse Newbie

Maybe @Rob J. meant to say 6000k…

is that the same as 6000 lumens ?

 

I am putting these in my 1984 Work Horse GT-1600 which I believe charges at about 3-4 amps…

Will they be okay ?

Hope I’m not highjacking this thread…

BTW, what does that actually mean ?

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Handy Don
6 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said:

Maybe @Rob J. meant to say 6000k…

is that the same as 6000 linens ?

 

I am putting these in my 1984 Work Horse GT-1600 which I believe charges at about 3-4 amps…

Will they be okay ?

Hope I’m not highjacking this thread…

BTW, what does that actually mean ?

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If you can trust the label, it claims 9w power consumption per lamp.

Mr. Ohm says W ÷ V = A. So 9 ÷ 12 = .67 amps each. So less than 1.4 amps together.

If the only other loads are charging the battery and running the tractor, you will be just fine.

 

BTW:

- lumens is a measure of brightness or total quantity of light energy in the visible spectrum (i.e. light humans can see)

- K is a measure of the color of the light (6000K is a very white light with a tinge of blue, lower numbers have more yellow)

Enjoy!

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Kenneth R Cluley

Didn't they used to rate output by Candlepower or some sort of rating related to how many candles would generate that much light? (example of hi-jacking)

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Kenneth R Cluley

Candlepower x 12.57 = Lumens.

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SylvanLakeWH
18 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said:

Hope I’m not highjacking this thread…

BTW, what does that actually mean ?


It means posting something unrelated to the thread, thus highjacking it’s original purpose…

 

Think “squirrel!!!”… 

 

Your post was totally fine and not a highjack as it was related to the thread purpose…

 

:law-policeblue: Highjack spoiler: “but I just write Haikus… so what do I know? :techie-typing:

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squonk
1 hour ago, WHX?? said:

Way good ... my measurements on led bulbs show they draw alot less than what guys think they do. Since one can't really read resistance on them and plug that into Ohm's law the only way to know is actually measure the amp draw. They really do throw a monkey wrench at Mr Ohm since there is no way that I know of to convert lumens to amps. Remember they are rated in EQUIVELENT watts so the rated wattage is useless as far as using it in math. 

You ever got nothing better to do @squonk bust out yer Fluke and see what yours draw. 

I use these bulbs now. Nice and bright and my meter shows they draw a tenth of an amp. I had the tractor at the Steam Pageant and a guy comes up to me and tells me the lights kept turning on an off all night by themselves. (problem with the rocker switch) and the battery would still start the tractor without charging it. They are rated at 1.7 watts.

 

$28 for the 2

 

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Rob J.

Sorry yes 6000k white light. Geez don’t make a mistake on this site. But yeah thanks for correcting me. 

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Handy Don
23 minutes ago, Rob J. said:

Sorry yes 6000k white light. Geez don’t make a mistake on this site. But yeah thanks for correcting me. 

Actually, 6000 lumens is feasible. A medium-sized ATV or off-road vehicle lightbar will throw that much light and I've got one only slightly smaller on one of our tractors!

The package stated 900lm (luminous flux?) in excruciating fine print! :lol:

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Maxwell-8
11 hours ago, Handy Don said:

I think with an LED this would be more like 50 watts @ 12v. So about 4 amps. But if it is only a 3 amp charging circuit, it will be a net drain on the battery.

50w x70lumens/watt= 3500 lumens,

 

4 hours ago, Handy Don said:

Actually, 6000 lumens is feasible.

You need to be able to cool that. their are a lot of false claims on those led bars concerning output. 

 

I have one of those, claimed 150w, 10000lumens, yet my Olight 1000 lumen handheld flashlight is equally bright.

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WHX??

Just for grins put an ampmeter on @Achto 867 resto. 1 amp both bulbs and very bright. Specs wasn't listed on the package but he said they were in the jungle. 

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Achto
8 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Specs wasn't listed on the package but he said they were in the jungle. 

 

From the specs on the Jungle site.

 

【Specification & Note】Voltage: DC 12V. Power: 7W/Bulb. Lumen: 3200LM/Pair. Color: 6000K white.

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kpinnc

I used chrome tape in my FILs Charger, with LEDs. Worked great!

 

Makes you wonder what the old incandescent lights were even for, because they are about 1/4 as bright as LEDs. 

 

 

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