WHX?? 48,833 #51 Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Achto said: One farm that worked at we did not change the milking schedule. 5am & 5pm so DLS milkings were 4am & 4pm. That's what most of the dairymen did when I worked on farms. Had to go out many nights at 3 am and fix a vacuum or milk pump to able milk at 4! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,641 #52 Posted March 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Achto said: One farm that worked at we did not change the milking schedule. 5am & 5pm so DLS milkings were 4am & 4pm. I've only had open access to one farm and it seems to me that's what they did as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,308 #53 Posted March 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, Achto said: One farm that worked at we did not change the milking schedule. 5am & 5pm so DLS milkings were 4am & 4pm. Stupid cows, can't they read a clock! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,609 #54 Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I've only had open access to one farm and it seems to me that's what they did as well Most of the large dairy farms in Wisconsin have now switch to milking every 8hrs instead of every 12hrs. When they are milking 9000 cows, this does not leave a lot of time between shifts. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #55 Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, lynnmor said: Stupid cows, can't they read a clock! They didn't need to, they were all lined up in order at the parlor gates when they heard the vacuum pumps start up to sanitize the pipeline before milking! 'Course they knew right after milking they were to head out to the free stalls for feed. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,324 #56 Posted March 18, 2022 10 hours ago, lynnmor said: Stupid cows, can't they read a clock! Cows don't need a clock, just us humans. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,833 #57 Posted March 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Cows don't need a clock, just us stupid humans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,237 #58 Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, 953 nut said: Cows don't need a clock, just us humans. Are those cows trying to tell us something? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,641 #59 Posted March 18, 2022 8 hours ago, 953 nut said: Cows don't need a clock, just us humans. Not during the best of times. 7 hours ago, Handy Don said: Are those cows trying to tell us something? YES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wh500special 2,188 #60 Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) My preference would be to stay on the same time all year, but no big deal to me either way. a few things come to mind… My mother in law is at that stage in her life where she’s easily confused and is needing some help with things. The time change really had her rattled this time. She missed church and had the clocks in the house all screwed up trying to fix them. I imagine this isn’t an isolated case with some of the older folks in our lives. If we didn’t change time, this problem goes away. I was still living in Indiana when they finally decided to join the rest of the country (except AZ) and begin observing daylight savings time. Prior to that, we spent half the year on “slow time” and matched Illinois, the other half of the year we matched Michigan. This wasn’t a big deal, but every once in a while I’d forget and arrive an hour earlier or later than I’d planned when I crossed the state line. anyway, when the change to DST occured that first spring several neighbors and random people I knew were seething mad at the governor. They thought he literally took an hour of the day away. It was incredible the animus and confusion. As it turned out, I think most Hoosiers lived through it and I imagine they are used to it by now. Areas that are on the far western edge of their time zones - like western Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, etc - have sunsets during DST that are really late. It’s still light out in the height of summer well after 9:00. Many are going to bed before the sun goes down. Conversely, mornings are dark. This is more a function of perhaps being in the wrong time zone for their longitude, but it’s interesting nonetheless. with the digitalization of society and our choice to be completely dependent on our smartphones, I can see a time when minutes are automatically added or subtracted each day to tweak the daylight periods. The day will come when the majority of our clocks are linked to some magical universal time measure and this will be practical. I’m not advocating for or against it, just observing that it’s probably inevitable. Since the economy is global, it would be nice if we all either shifted time or held it constant throughout the year. I know for my work I talk to people in Europe regularly and it would be less convenient if the time difference wasn’t constant through the year. As it is, I know I have an hour or two in the early morning part of my day to talk to my European counterparts before they go home for the evening. It seems like staying on DST year round has quite a bit of political traction right now. I’m betting it happens. Steve Edited March 18, 2022 by wh500special 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,237 #61 Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, wh500special said: see a time when minutes are automatically added or subtracted each day to tweak the daylight periods Interesting idea. I worked for years designing software for a global money transfer company and the effort that went into keeping proper track of exactly when each transaction happened was a big deal. Ultimately, we established an internal "our time" similar to what the space program uses and that clock was never shifted. Sounds simple until you realize you still must know and apply the rules for every location around the world to properly label printed or emailed receipts or conform to laws governing when certain transactions were legal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,641 #62 Posted March 18, 2022 5 hours ago, wh500special said: Areas that are on the far western edge of their time zones Trina and I took a trip to the far side of North Dakota a few years ago. They were on the far western edge of their time zone but we were accustomed to being on the far eastern edge of our home time zone. Maine, by rights, should actually be in Atlantic time. Not Eastern. We were all sitting around the backyard barbecue fire type thing and shooting the breeze. Trina and I realized we were getting a little sleepy and no wonder. It was 10:00 p.m. ... it was dusk. 5 hours ago, wh500special said: I’m betting it happens. I'm hoping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites