Mustang's 414-8 restoration

[Mustang67ford 234]

The fix for the f plate is a new NOS frame and fabricated up a plate reinforcement.  One piece bolt-in.  Still need to clean up and paint.

Edited March 20, 2022 by Mustang67ford

[Mustang67ford 234]

Got the new frame and reinforcement all painted and bolted up.

Edited March 24, 2022 by Mustang67ford

[Mustang67ford 234]

Made some more progress.  Back to where I was 2 weeks ago when I needed to change the frame.  Then, got the upper dash and steering installed and 1 side of the sheet metal.  I assembled the steering on the bench to install the roll pin then bolted it in place.  Because of the steering spring washer, I had to push down on the steering before tightening up the collar.  The upper steering rod at the steering fan block all went together good.  The steering teeth are just slightly above the block, could not get them to actually touch the block.  Ran into a problem installing the steering wheel onto the shaft though.  Both are new but the hole in the steering wheel did not completley line up on one side.  No matter what I did, the roll pin would not go.  Had to run a drill bit thru the one side of the steering wheel to allow the roll pin to go.  Maybe thats normal, not sure.

Edited March 27, 2022 by Mustang67ford

[Mustang67ford 234]

Got it fired up for the first time and took it for a spin.  Circuit board lights are all working.  Left the hood off so I can change points and check valves which I have to remove the carb to do.  Still need to do something about the rims and tires.  The only issue I am having so far, is the pto drum wants to spin with the motor.  The brake is not working.  If I push the pto brake in, then it pushes it against the clutch disk.  I can stop the drum by hand and I can see a small gap between it and the clutch disk, but I can feel it wanting to spin.  The drum is brand new.

[kpinnc 12,083]

59 minutes ago, Mustang67ford said:

can stop the drum by hand and I can see a small gap between it and the clutch disk, but I can feel it wanting to spin.  The drum is brand new.

 

With no deck or other implement belt being on there, it will freewheel. I don't use the PTO brake that came on later tractors. They are a pain to adjust and serve only to make changing belts require tools. It won't hurt anything to let it spin.

[Handy Don 12,235]

1 hour ago, kpinnc said:

It won't hurt anything to let it spin.

Agreed as long as the outer pressure bearing is properly lubricated.

[Horse Newbie 7,074]

On 3/12/2022 at 6:24 PM, JoeM said:

Good looking work! 

[peter lena 8,634]

@kpinnc  @Handy Don  , don't have the brake s on my , pto,s  , that outer cone is silent running . greasy pete

[Handy Don 12,235]

3 minutes ago, peter lena said:

that outer cone is silent running

As noted: "properly lubricated!"

[kpinnc 12,083]

If allowed to freewheel, the outer bearing actually gets less stress. It won't reach full 3600 RPMs unless the PTO is engaged. And the main bearing gets less wear as well.

[Horse Newbie 7,074]

3 hours ago, kpinnc said:

If allowed to freewheel, the outer bearing actually gets less stress. It won't reach full 3600 RPMs unless the PTO is engaged. And the main bearing gets less wear as well.

Makes sense to me…

[mrc 812]

nice work mustang! 

the 2 rear tabs in the black center section under where the front of the gas tank front mounts are prone to breaking.  looks like in your pics I see some welding done there. if you reinforce them now they will never be a problem. all your mods will sure help make that tractor last a looong tim!

[peter lena 8,634]

@mrc  agree with your opportunity view of  of a  repetitive  problem , that's the time to  correct ,and improve on an issue . upsets a purest , but  thats the track , for a more reliable horse , pete

[Mustang67ford 234]

Thanks.  Will see how the drum does with the deck on.

[davem1111 2,030]

Awesome work!   I'm curious about rust and repainting.... do you sand blast your parts that are rusty?  Use stripper to get all the old paint off?   And where do you source the proper color red?  I bought a can of red tractor paint at Rural King to repaint the drive belt shield on my 312-A while I had it off, and it's obviously not the right shade of red. I knew it wasn't a "permanent" paint job - I didn't take off all the old paint so you can tell where it had peeled. I used some mesh sanding cloth on it before painting... don't expect it to last long.

[davem1111 2,030]

21 hours ago, davem1111 said:

Awesome work!   I'm curious about rust and repainting.... do you sand blast your parts that are rusty?  Use stripper to get all the old paint off?   And where do you source the proper color red?  I bought a can of red tractor paint at Rural King to repaint the drive belt shield on my 312-A while I had it off, and it's obviously not the right shade of red. I knew it wasn't a "permanent" paint job - I didn't take off all the old paint so you can tell where it had peeled. I used some mesh sanding cloth on it before painting... don't expect it to last long.

 

Why the sad emoji, @Horse Newbie ?   Because I used the wrong paint?  Or because I'm asking dumb questions? 

[Horse Newbie 7,074]

No sir @davem1111… not a dumb question has ever been asked on here… (well I may have)

I certainly don’t consider any questions on the Redsquare dumb.

I reacted with a sad emoji because you were saying the paint you used was not a match, and you said you didn’t expect it to last long…

Many on here, including me, use Rustoleum Regal Red in the rattle cans, also some like Rustoleum Sunrise Red… 

The main thing is to get on here and ask questions about what senior members have used on their tractors… you’ll get plenty of advice and help !

 

I am sure my paint jobs would not be good enough for a lot of the guys on here, but theirs is good enough for them, and mine is good enough for me.

 

I do laugh at some guys posts, and I kid around a lot on here … that’s just how I am.

 

I have explained myself more than once on here when I thought that some member may have took something the wrong way. But I value the advice and experience I gain on here and do not take it for granted…

 

I have made friends with people on here I have never met…

 

BTW… I have used a wire brush on a drill, chemical stripper, sand paper, sand blasting (hired out), and sanding discs on a angle grinder to remove rust and paint…

 

and most things I have done to my horses is a learning moment… some things worked good, some didn’t…

keep asking questions !

Edited April 6, 2022 by Horse Newbie

[ri702bill 8,328]

On 3/19/2022 at 9:40 PM, Mustang67ford said:

and fabricated up a plate reinforcement.  One piece bolt-in.

Hmmm..... looks somehow familiar.........

[WHX?? 48,828]

Nice work 'Stang

[peter lena 8,634]

@Mustang67ford  , like that steering flange bearing , have that on my horses . did you add ground cable to your battery bolt cable area ?  add that to you engine / frame area ?. from that to  rectifier on engine cooling tins , and from that to headlights .  like a solid ground for related electrics , bright lights , faster starts . use lucas x-tra heavy duty , green chassis grease  on that pto cone needle bearing . just a light coating , no noise or issues , no brake on my pto set up , spins with silent ease . lookin good , pete

[Mustang67ford 234]

On 4/4/2022 at 9:31 PM, davem1111 said:

Awesome work!   I'm curious about rust and repainting.... do you sand blast your parts that are rusty?  Use stripper to get all the old paint off?   And where do you source the proper color red?  I bought a can of red tractor paint at Rural King to repaint the drive belt shield on my 312-A while I had it off, and it's obviously not the right shade of red. I knew it wasn't a "permanent" paint job - I didn't take off all the old paint so you can tell where it had peeled. I used some mesh sanding cloth on it before painting... don't expect it to last long.

No sandblasting though I had debated on it.  I stripped with palm orbital sander and air powered wire wheel.  Paint is rattle can IH red majic tractor paint from tractor supply.

Edited April 8, 2022 by Mustang67ford

[Mustang67ford 234]

Restoration complete.

[Mustang67ford 234]

A few more pics