857lover 291 #1 Posted March 10, 2022 just picked up a 6 speed for my 857 i’m excited to bolt it up me and @danweikert21 will keep you guys updated 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #2 Posted March 10, 2022 What's your reason for wanting to swap? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #3 Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: What's your reason for wanting to swap? there isn’t a ton of reason to be honest with you besides the fact that’s it’s a hi low trans and that the transmission that’s in it is shot but i will be taking it apart to look at and try and fix Edited March 10, 2022 by 857lover 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,275 #4 Posted March 10, 2022 Any idea where it came out of? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #5 Posted March 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said: Any idea where it came out of? no unfortunately 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #6 Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, 857lover said: there isn’t a ton of reason to be honest with you besides the fact that’s it’s a hi low trans and that the transmission that’s in it is shot but i will be taking it apart to look at and try and fix The upper range of a high low is the same gearing as a three or four speed. You'll get two benefits out of changing from a 3-speed to a 6-speed transmission. One is that the axles are a little beefier but quite frankly that has never been proven to make much difference to me. The other is that the 6 speeds have Limited Slip Differential. Low range really won't do anything for you unless you are backing slowly or using implements like a tiller. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #7 Posted March 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: The upper range of a high low is the same gearing as a three or four speed. You'll get two benefits out of changing from a 3-speed to a 6-speed transmission. One is that the axles are a little beefier but quite frankly that has never been proven to make much difference to me. The other is that the 6 speeds have Limited Slip Differential. Low range really won't do anything for you unless you are backing slowly or using implements like a tiller. do you know the oil capacity of the six speed ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #8 Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, 857lover said: do you know the oil capacity of the six speed ? 2 quarts. Least expensive 80 or 90 weight you can find. Three or four speed capacity is 1.5 quarts but I put two in mine when I refill. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,867 #9 Posted March 10, 2022 2 qts on all of ‘em for me. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,738 #10 Posted March 10, 2022 That transmission is either a #5060 or a #5071...depending on the differential end plates. 10 pinion Limited Slip. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,867 #11 Posted March 10, 2022 So since we were talking about limited slip the other day, if you try to spin one hub forward and the other backward, it will give a pretty gnarly clicking/jamming sound in the rearend. That’s that spring trying to hold everything in the same position and is a good thing. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #12 Posted March 10, 2022 If it has the aluminum end plates it would be another good reason not to subject it to shock loads. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #13 Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Pullstart said: So since we were talking about limited slip the other day, if you try to spin one hub forward and the other backward, it will give a pretty gnarly clicking/jamming sound in the rearend. That’s that spring trying to hold everything in the same position and is a good thing. If it's holding right and the transmission is just on the bench or floor or whatever with no hubs or wheels you'd be hard pressed to do that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,109 #14 Posted March 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, pfrederi said: If it has the aluminum end plates it would be another good reason not to subject it to shock loads. Spring isn't going to last either. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #15 Posted March 10, 2022 i want to thank all of you guys for helping me get my ol 857 running….can i call it a 867 now 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,867 #16 Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ebinmaine said: If it's holding right and the transmission is just on the bench or floor or whatever with no hubs or wheels you'd be hard pressed to do that. didn’t say it’s easy! 💪 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,867 #17 Posted March 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, 857lover said: can i call it a 867 now good job! That was pretty quick! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #18 Posted March 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Pullstart said: good job! That was pretty quick! yea i took the shifter out to fill it and now i can’t get it back in properly:/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,492 #19 Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, 857lover said: yea i took the shifter out to fill it and now i can’t get it back in properly:/ They can be.... Challenging. Just keep trying. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #20 Posted March 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: They can be.... Challenging. Just keep trying. it seems like it’s in but the shifter won’t move 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,867 #21 Posted March 10, 2022 You’ll get it! Make sure the shift forks are lined up before you start. [ ] they should make a square when they are in the right spot for the shifter to go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,867 #22 Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, 857lover said: it seems like it’s in but the shifter won’t move loosen the dog point a smidge? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #23 Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Pullstart said: You’ll get it! Make sure the shift forks are lined up before you start. [ ] they should make a square when they are in the right spot for the shifter to go. i see it now they aren’t lined up how do i move it ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,867 #24 Posted March 10, 2022 A big screw driver might help. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #25 Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, 857lover said: i see it now they aren’t lined up how do i move it ? i got it @Pullstart thanks that’s a life saver 😂 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites