416-8 fair price

[Fishroe 261]

I know it’s hard to tell without seeing it in person

seller says it runs good

[WHNJ701 4,165]

Should say runs good with a crappy repaint

Edited March 4, 2022 by jabelman

[Fishroe 261]

Yes it is 

I texted the seller last night and asked how many hrs were on it. He said he would look this morning. Texted back this morning and said it doesn’t have an hour meter. Kinda makes me think he got it just to flip it. $1200 or $950 without tiller. I thought that was high 

[953 nut 55,228]

416-8 is a good strong tractor, the only downfall is that it has an Armstrong  lift rather than the electric lift. That tiller will give you a workout. Depending on the condition of the engine, transaxle and steering I would guess $ 600 to $ 700 would be a ballpark price.   

[Fishroe 261]

So the best scenario is a tractor with hydraulics if u use a tiller? 

[WHNJ701 4,165]

13 minutes ago, Fishroe said:

Kinda makes me think he got it just to flip it.

Typical tractor flipper a cheap can of spray paint and they think it's worth 1000 more than what he paid for it 

 

It a nice setup for the garden if you can for a more realistic price.  It's a alot without knowing the history behind it 

[Fishroe 261]

Bad thing is it’s 3 hours one way to look at it 

[Pullstart 62,867]

It is missing the tins on the head.  Tells me it’s been apart before.  And neglected to be repaired correctly.

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,317]

  I’m not 100% convinced it is a 416…motor looks like a transplant so it could be a 310 or a 312 that someone dropped a K341 into. If that was the case it might have the “weaker” 4 pinion with 1” axles trans. The motors were black on the 416’s and they had a real muffler and not a stub of pipe with that pepper pot style mufffler screwed on. 
  Not saying it isn’t worth checking out, but look it over real good. And the asking price is really high in my opinion. 

[squonk 41,109]

Love the " No Trespassing " sign planted right next to it. 

[lynnmor 7,306]

Keep looking, you haven't found much yet.

[pfrederi 17,739]

Hard to be sure but the tiller tines look pretty worn... replacement is big $$$

[WHX?? 48,815]

Yeah 3 hr drive to see it's a bit over priced and a franken horse. Sparky nailed it I'd have ta pass on that one. 

[Fishroe 261]

Thanks guys

i feel better now 😂😂

when the guy didn’t even know whether it had an hour meter that was the first red flag

[Pullstart 62,867]

12 minutes ago, Fishroe said:

Thanks guys

i feel better now 😂😂

when the guy didn’t even know whether it had an hour meter that was the first red flag

 

I’ve got a few that I thought had hour meters… and didn’t too 

Edited March 4, 2022 by Pullstart

[oldlineman 1,481]

Ya thats a $300.00 to $400.00 set up to me if everything checks out, as Sparky said check the size of the rear axles. Bob

[kpinnc 12,028]

7 hours ago, Sparky said:

Not saying it isn’t worth checking out, but look it over real good. And the asking price is really high in my opinion. 

 

Mike is right- definitely NOT a 416-8. If you look at it from the back, those are definitely not 1.125 axles. But- the front spindles are short for the 8 inch wheels. Add all the paint problems and to me it looks like a cobbled machine from parts of more than one.

 

I can't be 100% certain, but that rear fender looks like a Work Horse fender. They didn't have the little stiffening bend across the bottom rear like regular Wheel Horses. 

 

Nothing wrong with a cobbled machine if done correctly, but that one is massively overpriced. 

Edited March 4, 2022 by kpinnc

[Horse Newbie 7,069]

2 hours ago, kpinnc said:

They didn't have the little stiffening bend across the bottom rear like regular Wheel Horses.

We learned something… last Saturday…

[Fishroe 261]

7 hours ago, Pullstart said:

 

I’ve got a few that I thought had hour meters… and didn’t too 

 

7 hours ago, Pullstart said:

 

I’ve got a few that I thought had hour meters… and didn’t too 

LOL

[WHX?? 48,815]

Eagle eye ther kp... what is 1.125 tho does that = 1 1/8" ??? 'Ats ok I had to take my shoes of anyway....

[Wheelhorse#1 1,657]

Just be sure to check it over good.Motor and trans.It’s probably been worked to death already as most of them are .

[953 nut 55,228]

23 hours ago, Fishroe said:

Bad thing is it’s 3 hours one way to look at it 

If you are still interested in it here is an idea. Take a look at the "Member Map" and see if any members live near the seller. Send them a PM (personal message), they may be willing go take a look at it for you.                     With any luck they won't buy it out from under you.

https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/membermap/

[WHX?? 48,815]

12 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

If you are still interested in it here is an idea. Take a look at the "Member Map" and see if any members live near the seller. Send them a PM (personal message), they may be willing go take a look at it for you.                     With any luck they won't buy it out from under you.

Good idea 'Nuts  but at that price I don't know anybody that would be stupid enough to ... well ther is Squonky.... 

[Fishroe 261]

If they were closer I would check it out 

[kpinnc 12,028]

17 hours ago, Horse Newbie said:

We learned something… last Saturday…

 

Yep. Plus the holes on top are different. Definitely not the same metal painted grey.