RedWheelz 149 #26 Posted March 6, 2022 Belt looks pretty old. Haven't inspected anything yet. Now I know what to look for. I'll peek at er' tomorrow. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #27 Posted March 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, RedWheelz said: Belt looks pretty old. Haven't inspected anything yet. Now I know what to look for. I'll peek at er' tomorrow. Keep us posted. Remember we likes our pictures. 😀 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWheelz 149 #28 Posted March 6, 2022 Pulleys were a bit rusty. Got them cleaned up and it didn't make much difference. If I decide to sell it I'll probably sell as is so not sure if I wanna buy new belt or mess with it more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #29 Posted March 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, RedWheelz said: Pulleys were a bit rusty. Got them cleaned up and it didn't make much difference. If I decide to sell it I'll probably sell as is so not sure if I wanna buy new belt or mess with it more. These pulleys are VERY rusty. The idler could be replaced. The transmission pulley can likely be shined up. I'd say that's been setting outside or on a dirt floor unused quite some time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWheelz 149 #30 Posted March 6, 2022 Yep, it was outside. Not a big fan of outdoor, uncovered storage! All my tractors and equipment are inside, if not, they r covered. I used a flap disk and that got them to bare metal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWheelz 149 #31 Posted March 12, 2022 I put a new belt on now the idler pullry guard rubs the belt. Is that little guard suppose to be adjustable or welded to the idler pulley arm? This one is welded. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,011 #32 Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Is that new belt the right length? It looks short to me from the pic. A proper length belt will allow that idler pulley to go back farther which will relieve that guard from contacting the belt A stronger spring on the other side to pull that pulley back more may solve the problem. If you can push it back by hand so it doesn't touch the belt then a stronger spring might do it. If you can't push it enough then a longer belt is the answer Edited March 12, 2022 by wallfish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,011 #33 Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Notice how vertical the idler arm for the pulley is in this pic below. Not as much in the recent pic Edited March 12, 2022 by wallfish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,074 #34 Posted March 12, 2022 I was thinking that belt “guard” is supposed to fully stop the belt when you push in the clutch … 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,209 #35 Posted March 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: I was thinking that belt “guard” is supposed to fully stop the belt when you push in the clutch … Yes, the belt guard supports the bottom loop of the slack belt and helps to stop it from contacting the engine pulley. If properly adjusted, that tab on the tensioner pulley will pinch and also help to stop the belt. It appears your belt is too short....It should not be rubbing the belt when the clutch is engaged. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWheelz 149 #36 Posted March 12, 2022 The belt is 5/8 x 82" which I thought was the correct belt 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,209 #37 Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, RedWheelz said: The belt is 5/8 x 82" which I thought was the correct belt That belt would probably be OK, but the tab must be adjusted so it only touches the belt when the clutch is depressed. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,074 #38 Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: that tab on the tensioner pulley will pinch and also help to stop the belt Yeah, that’s what I was talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #39 Posted March 13, 2022 Judging by the curve (white circle) on that side of the tab, it looks as if it's been that way for a bit. We've had Horses like this here and had to bend/adjust/correct the issue. I do agree with the above post(s) about the possibility of the belt being too short. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,074 #40 Posted March 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I do agree with the above post(s) about the possibility of the belt being too short I’m thinking it would be an 82.5” x5/8”… you think @ebinmaine ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,209 #41 Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: ’m thinking it would be an 82.5” x5/8” I buy my belts at TSC. When the size is questionable, I buy several sizes and return the belts That are not used for a full refund. Just keep the belts and sleeves clean. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #42 Posted March 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: I’m thinking it would be an 82.5” x5/8”… you think @ebinmaine ? I'm thinking it should be 81.9 x 5/8" or 5L. I've had a few tractors that had challenges getting a belt fitted properly. Could be a wrong size pulley. Or belt. 8 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: I buy my belts at TSC. When the size is questionable, I buy several sizes and return the belts That are not used for a full refund. Just keep the belts and sleeves clean. ⬆️⬆️⬆️ This method does work. Done it. I've switched over to using ONLY Wheelhorse/Toro belts for manual transmission tractors. Haven't had an issue since. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,074 #43 Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: I've switched over to using ONLY Wheelhorse/Toro belts for manual transmission tractors. Haven't had an issue since Where do you get. I think I got one from Lowell… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #44 Posted March 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: Where do you get. I think I got one from Lowell… Yepp they have them. I've gotten Horse belts off the fleabay too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWheelz 149 #45 Posted March 14, 2022 Is the guard hitting to much when the clutch pedal is pressed? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,209 #46 Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, RedWheelz said: Is the guard hitting to much when the clutch pedal is pressed? No, that looks good. The belt should stop if the belt guard is in place. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWheelz 149 #47 Posted March 14, 2022 So the belt that was to short was a 82" D&D belt off Amazon. This belt is from TSC and its a Huskee Blue Kevlar. Guess they run different. Anyhoo, It drives ok now, just got to idle it down when taking off in 3rd gear. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #48 Posted March 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, RedWheelz said: Guess they run different They just... Don't. Belts are supposed to be standardized. They aren't like tires that can and do vary some. This is another example of why I went to using ONLY Wheelhorse/Toro belts. You did perfectly fine with TSC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,074 #49 Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, RedWheelz said: This belt is from TSC and its a Huskee Blue Kevlar. Was it an 82 inch also ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWheelz 149 #50 Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: Was it an 82 inch also ? Sorry yes it was a 82" , I meant to include that And I just realized the D&D belt was 7/16 thickness and the TSC is 13/32. Edited March 15, 2022 by RedWheelz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
