41chevy 74 #1 Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) I’m looking for suggestions, I’ve fooled with this for 2 days with no luck. I’ve put what I think is more than enough heat on this hub 3 times with the puller loaded as much as I dare, Tried beating on it with brass drift hot and cold, soaked in WD 40. It hasn’t moved a fraction off or on one bit. Thanks Steve Edited February 10, 2022 by 41chevy Add pic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,302 #2 Posted February 10, 2022 This is the thread I reference as a go-to for pulling hubs. Scroll down some and you'll see a bunch of great ideas. Biggest thing to remember is do NOT use a three-jaw puller. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,866 #3 Posted February 10, 2022 I see one set screw. many of these newer hubs had a second set screw 90 degrees off. Is there a sheared off one still in there? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,720 #4 Posted February 10, 2022 @41 CHEVY , 3 jaw pulley is not solid enough , a strong back flange and a small hydraulic piston on shaft end will do it , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
41chevy 74 #5 Posted February 10, 2022 Thank you, I’ll make a puller to pull from the hub back. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,751 #6 Posted February 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, 41chevy said: I’ll make a puller to pull from the hub back. One like this is usually effective. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,714 #8 Posted February 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Achto said: One like this is usually effective. what is the name of that design puller and where is it purchased? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,714 #9 Posted February 10, 2022 Like 41chevy - - last yr i tried for a week to remove hubs with 3 puller, plus map gas heat, plus penetrant etc -- and rubber mallet - - nothing worked - finally had to take it to a shop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #10 Posted February 10, 2022 Don't beat on that hub with a hammer. The axle is only held in with a C clip... 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,302 #11 Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said: Like 41chevy - - last yr i tried for a week to remove hubs with 3 puller, plus map gas heat, plus penetrant etc -- and rubber mallet - - nothing worked - finally had to take it to a shop Another reference point for why you should never use a three-jaw puller is that I've been told it will squeeze in on the diameter of the hub which is only making it tighter on the axle. Situations like yours is one of the multitudes of justifications I used to go out and spend some money on a 20-ton press. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #12 Posted February 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said: what is the name of that design puller and where is it purchased? Thanks Quite a few on ebay, used and New. I think it's called a Bearing puller... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,751 #13 Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said: what is the name of that design puller and where is it purchased? Thanks One source. https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200023924_200023924?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Metal Fabrication > Shop Presses > Shop Press Accessories&utm_campaign=Arcan&utm_content=145992&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg-bj4dz19QIV7sqUCR2ruwMMEAQYBiABEgIKi_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,492 #14 Posted February 10, 2022 51 minutes ago, Achto said: One like this is usually effective Effective, indeed. Made this one last year as I posted before. Used the HF Large Bearing Separator, had the Snap-on fine pitch screw, made the rest. As others had noted in prior posts, smack the hub or puller while using it - the shock from the impact helps loosen it. A been there, done that tip - position the keyway at the 12 o'clock position, remove the 3/8" setscrew completely and flood the hole in the hub with penetration oil - FIRST! 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,353 #15 Posted February 10, 2022 Look into the set screw hole and see if the key is centered. If the keyway in the hub is badly worn the hub can be blocked by the key in the wrong position to follow the keyway. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjoemie himself 3,068 #16 Posted February 10, 2022 Don't know if it's common on these hubs but sometimes there's a second setscrew under the first one.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #17 Posted February 10, 2022 3 hours ago, ri702bill said: Made this one Bill, when using it, did you notice if the bolts on the bearing splitter were wanting to bend? Would this be a possible improvement on the design? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc724 925 #18 Posted February 10, 2022 Use Kroil instead of WD40. It is what all the professional maintenance people use for really tough jobs. I used it on hubs and steering wheels and I never broke a steering wheel. I also had a hub puller like the one in Squonk's Picture. Sold it to someone on RS when I liquidated my fleet. Be patient. You have to give the Kroil time to seep in. When removing steering wheels, I would spray the area once a day for 3-5 days before even attempting to pull it off. By then, I did not even need a wheel puller. Simply blocked the front wheels and put some torque (by hand) on the steering wheel and it would come right off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,302 #19 Posted February 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, doc724 said: Use Kroil instead of WD40 I'll second that. WD 40 original formula is not now and never has been a penetrant. IMHO PB Blaster should be ignored. I've also had good success with old fashioned Liquid Wrench. 12 minutes ago, doc724 said: Be patient. You have to give the Kroil time to seep in. Agreed and I'd add that's the case for all rust penetrant. It took years to get rusty and stuck. It isn't going to be freed up in a few minutes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #20 Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: PB Blaster should be ignored I've had pretty good luck with it, but I admit I've never compared it to Kroil. WD-40 is good if you have bad spark plug wires and they get wet. That's about all. No 'lasting' lubricant qualities, it evaporates in a day or two. Smells nice though... I sometimes use it as a deodorant! Chicks dig it. Edited February 10, 2022 by Jeff-C175 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 817 #21 Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, squonk said: i tried one theses pullers and i still couldn't get it off . had hub glowing cherry red with torch . used mac tools 3 jaw puller got one off second one ruined the puller and eventually broke the hub took grinder and split the hub on axle shaft and still had to chisel it off . luckily found a hub locally for 15 bucks . i never siezed crap out them when reinstalling them if ever had to get them back off mac tool guy did replace my puller good thing Edited February 10, 2022 by briankd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,302 #22 Posted February 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said: Smells nice though... I sometimes use it as a deodorant! Chicks dig it. Can confirm. BBT approved. She's a chick. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #23 Posted February 11, 2022 Pulls from back. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,760 #24 Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) Thius hasn't failed me yet... Edited February 12, 2022 by daveoman1966 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,492 #25 Posted February 11, 2022 12 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said: Bill, when using it, did you notice if the bolts on the bearing splitter were wanting to bend? Would this be a possible improvement on the design? @Jeff-C175 No, the hardened shafts worked fine. Yes, it would be an improvement, similar to the puzzle disk that @gt14rider shared above. Bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
