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Thanks Plunge I saved it this time for future reference!  :handgestures-thumbupright:

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TJ5208

I'm getting ready to go work on it I'll let you guys know how it works out.

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TJ5208

Me and Dad just went out to the garage and tried to work on it we're going to wait till it gets warmer it's still not running right we're probably going to dissemble the carburetor we're going to try to see if the fuel pump is working we're going to go through the tractor piece by piece.

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Snoopy11
4 minutes ago, TJ Salyers said:

Me and Dad just went out to the garage and tried to work on it we're going to wait till it gets warmer it's still not running right we're probably going to dissemble the carburetor we're going to try to see if the fuel pump is working we're going to go through the tractor piece by piece.

Might want get a gasket set for it before-hand... :eusa-think:

 

May end up wanting to buy a new carb...

 

Don

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TJ5208

I'm not sure if we're going to buy a whole entire new carburetor I don't we don't know really what's wrong with it we're going to wait till it gets warmer he don't need to be outside so we'll figure it out it's just going to have to be sitting for a little while I don't know if she can buy fuel pumps off Amazon or not but we're just going to try to figure it out before we start buying stuff or I'm probably going to do soon once it gets warmer I'm going to drain the whole entire fuel tank and check all the lines and stuff I'm probably just going to replace them.

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RED-Z06

Once you get the filter housing off pull the choke cable, 4 screws on top and the upper housing lifts off.  Float and needle stay in the bottom.  It will give you an idea how full the carb is getting, and if the float/needle is working...and give access to some components 

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TJ5208

What does this bolt go to?

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Ed Kennell

If you are refering to the one with the hole, it should go to the dirty air filter pressure sensor on the idiot light cluster.     The fitting is usually broken off at the sensor and the tubing is hanging loose.

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kpinnc

A cheap and easy option to try would be to seal that intake manifold seam. Two of my Onans surged and had to run full choke until I did that.

 

The manifold is two pieces that are riveted together and is bolted to the carb from underneath. You can seal it without removing it, so no gaskets needed. The seam opens over time (heat cycles and aluminum) and air is allowed in. Just add a small bead of silicone gasket seal to the seam all the way around. It doesn't take much, and I just dabbed a bit on with my fingertip. 

 

Doing this greatly improved how my engines ran. Not to mention, if air comes in through a gap, it's bypassing the filter. If it doesn't improve anything, you're out $5. 

 

The one below looks.to have been sealed... Sloppily

 

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TJ5208
4 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

If you are refering to the one with the hole, it should go to the dirty air filter pressure sensor on the idiot light cluster.     The fitting is usually broken off at the sensor and the tubing is hanging loose.

Ok

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RED-Z06

Never seen a spit back plate on one of these...neat.

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RED-Z06
32 minutes ago, TJ Salyers said:

Ok

Hey what happens when you push the choke in, does the smoking stop and it dies instantly?

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Horse Newbie
34 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

The one below looks.to have been sealed... Sloppily

 

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Hey man, how did you get my picture ?:lol:

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RED-Z06
1 minute ago, Horse Newbie said:

Hey man, how did you get my picture ?:lol:

I wonder if a 1pc 3d printed intake would hold up?  Could play with the flow/ports where it splits under the carb.

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Horse Newbie
Just now, RED-Z06 said:

I wonder if a 1pc 3d printed intake would hold up?  Could play with the flow/ports where it splits under the carb.

I don’t know how it would hold up… I do know that it is fairly common for those intakes to have air leaks.

Mine did, but it was where the heat shield had rubbed it. The above pic is not mine though… I did a little better job than that …:lol:

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RED-Z06
7 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said:

I don’t know how it would hold up… I do know that it is fairly common for those intakes to have air leaks.

Mine did, but it was where the heat shield had rubbed it. The above pic is not mine though… I did a little better job than that …:lol:

I wonder if its related to climate?  All ive had ive never seen one leak at the seam..had them up over 2000 hours too.

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TJ5208
16 minutes ago, RED-Z06 said:

Hey what happens when you push the choke in, does the smoking stop and it dies instantly?

Yes

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lynnmor
6 minutes ago, TJ Salyers said:

Yes

Clean the carburetor.  I said that 12 days ago.

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RED-Z06
2 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

Clean the carburetor.

Yep...thats going to be the source i imagine, probably in the pilot jet.  Blow it out with air from the top.

 

Ignore the Square box 

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TJ5208
9 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

Clean the carburetor.  I said that 12 days ago.

That's what me and Dad is planning on doing.

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Ed Kennell
15 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

Clean the carburetor.  I said that 12 days ago.

Yep, it ran fine till he pushed that new filter barb into a rotten fuel line and clogged the carb.    Please always replace the fuel line downstream of the filter when installing a new filter.  And do not connect it to the carb or fuel pump until it is flushed with fuel.

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TJ5208

Can I have the part number to the carburetor that's on the tractor.

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lynnmor
1 hour ago, TJ Salyers said:

Can I have the part number to the carburetor that's on the tractor.

The part number is on the side of the carburetor, may start with 6100.

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TJ5208
1 hour ago, lynnmor said:

The part number is on the side of the carburetor, may start with 6100.

I found it.

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Horse Newbie

Some members here have had success with the cheap china carbs… I have one and it seems to be working fine so far.

Others on here prefer the original or OEM carbs.

I kept my original to possibly rebuild.

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