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The ancient Holdfast

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stevasaurus

Love that hammer you use for those clamps.  :occasion-xmas:

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ri702bill

Looks to be the predecessor to the current day milling machine step clamp - same principal.

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formariz
36 minutes ago, stevasaurus said:

Love that hammer you use for those clamps.  :occasion-xmas:

Stone carvers mallet. Compact and with the weight concentrated in the right area. Can be used with total control within your palm like it was your hand. I prefer it to any woodworking mallet for most tasks. Comes in different weights. This one is 1k or 2.2pounds. A lot of weight right inside ones hand.

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formariz
29 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

Looks to be the predecessor to the current day milling machine step clamp - same principal.

With a few distinct differences but yes. Nothing new is “so new” . 

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ebinmaine

VERY nice. Thanks for taking the time to post.  

 

I'd love for Trina to have a larger more permanent workspace/bench/counter with which she could better utilize things like that. 

 

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formariz
4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

VERY nice. Thanks for taking the time to post.  

 

I'd love for Trina to have a larger more permanent workspace/bench/counter with which she could better utilize things like that. 

 

Even in a not so permanent location they can be used. All you need to do is drill a hole. I have done that many times on job sites in the past.

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John2189

For the original holdfasts, how thick does the bench have to be? Would a top of 3/4 plywood work?

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formariz
5 hours ago, John2189 said:

For the original holdfasts, how thick does the bench have to be? Would a top of 3/4 plywood work?

Yes it does. The plywood however will wear out quickly around the edges from the wedging action and will also splinter depending on its quality. You can introduce a collar. They can be improvised from a variety of items. I have in the past also made a solid maple insert for plywood. Just a square piece mortised and screwed to plywood that could also be replaced. 
 Top can also be too thick for them to work properly. One then has to counter bore the underside. The ideal thickness is about 1-1/4” although they work perfectly well with 3/4”. Too thick of a top will reduce the diagonal wedging action that you can clearly see on the photo below. That is the secret to how it works. Correct hole size is also important although there is a bit of leeway there.


   Used on 3/4 maple board

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On 3/4” it’s actually a good wedge action 

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Various collars used in past at job sites for different size holdfasts

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John2189

Ok i was kicking around trying them, just never have 

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formariz
1 minute ago, John2189 said:

Ok i was kicking around trying them, just never have 

Do it. You will never regret it. 

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John2189

Thanks 

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