JCM 9,177 #1 Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Tried out the 418-A today for the first time with the 44'' 2 stage. A few observations. For the past 20 years between 2 520's both with cabs I can say that the snow coming out of the shute when it blows back at you still feels the same Don't miss that at all. My left hand kept going to the left side of the steering wheel coming up empty when I needed to lift the blower, that is going to take some time to adjust. First time for 4 link chains, now I know why everyone prefers 2 link even though they were ice chains. I guess I'm used to 2 link for the past 35 years blowing and blading, they seem to back up better. Steering is much easier on the 520. Hydro levers work great on either tractor. I would assume fuel usage is close, not that it matters. Sound of the Kohler vs the Onan, both are music to my ears. Power, the Kohler throws the snow as well as the Onan just didn't operate it long enough for a good comparison. If the 418 works like I think it will the cab may be headed on that one, maybe not this Winter though. Edited February 1, 2022 by JCM 5 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #2 Posted February 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, JCM said: the snow coming out of the shute when it blows back at you still feels the same You play snowman Jim? 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,326 #3 Posted February 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, JCM said: First time for 4 link chains, now I know why everyone prefers 2 link even though they were ice chains. I guess I'm used to 2 link for the past 35 years blowing and blading, they seem to back up better. What about the ride? Always heard that 4 link ride rougher and really jostle your kidneys 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,378 #4 Posted February 1, 2022 The wind when snowblowing can either be your friend or your enemy. I always try to play the wind to my advantage. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,177 #5 Posted February 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sparky said: What about the ride? Always heard that 4 link ride rougher and really jostle your kidneys There is so much Ice in the yard right now it was hard to tell, but that sounds about right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #6 Posted February 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sparky said: What about the ride? Always heard that 4 link ride rougher and really jostle your kidneys 10 minutes ago, JCM said: There is so much Ice in the yard right now it was hard to tell, but that sounds about right Sparky on smooth groomed gravel you can feel a difference. Really though, if the air pressure is right the tire should give around the chain as it rotates. Where I noticed the biggest difference is not so much in the lack of jostling type of ride quality but the lack of traction. 2 link chains obviously have twice as many links and the traction by my experience is exponentially better than twice. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #7 Posted February 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, rjg854 said: The wind when snowblowing can either be your friend or your enemy. I always try to play the wind to my advantage. Like sitting around a campfire, no matter where you move the smoke blows in your face... 8 2 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldlineman 1,481 #8 Posted February 1, 2022 That happens to you too, thought it was just me! Bob 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #9 Posted February 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, roadapples said: Like sitting around a campfire, no matter where you move the smoke blows in your face... 5 minutes ago, oldlineman said: That happens to you too, thought it was just me! Bob Being avid rough country campers and professional owners of a backyard fire 🔥 pit the Trina and I have been around more campfires than you could shake a stick at. I assure you all. Smoke does follow you. We've scientifically proven it multiple times. I've wondered the same about blowing snow. Seems no matter which way the wind is blowing or I'm facing I manage to get a good quality covering of ❄️❄️❄️. No worries though. Saves me a shower later. 🤪 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,298 #10 Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Sparky said: What about the ride? Always heard that 4 link ride rougher and really jostle your kidneys Not at all that bad. They are a bit rough on paved driveway but on the lawn you don't even feel them. I have the four link on my snow plow tractor and seldom go very fast while plowing so no problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 8,720 #11 Posted February 2, 2022 If you read some of the Wheel Horse manuals they say “experience will teach you not to throw snow into the wind!” 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #12 Posted February 2, 2022 6 hours ago, c-series don said: If you read some of the Wheel Horse manuals they say “experience will teach you not to throw snow into the wind!” This was clearly written by someone who's had no experience with a south facing mountainside directionally changing wind that follows most every nor'easter. The wind here changes direction 2 or 3 times within a minute. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,177 #13 Posted February 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: The wind here changes direction 2 or 3 times within a minute. Same thing here, always. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,464 #14 Posted February 2, 2022 13 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Being avid rough country campers and professional owners of a backyard fire 🔥 pit the Trina and I have been around more campfires than you could shake a stick at. I assure you all. Smoke does follow you. We've scientifically proven it multiple times. I've wondered the same about blowing snow. Seems no matter which way the wind is blowing or I'm facing I manage to get a good quality covering of ❄️❄️❄️. No worries though. Saves me a shower later. 🤪 To me it is all part of getting the job done. I guess we have to just Man up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,130 #15 Posted February 2, 2022 ...or, use the right tool for the job at hand. Don't you have a cab? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #16 Posted February 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, Retierd Wrencher said: To me it is all part of getting the job done. I guess we have to just Man up. That's why I make Trina run the snowblower 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,378 #17 Posted February 2, 2022 I have a hunch you don't "make" Trina do anything she doesn't already want to do. You're just a big ole "teddy" bear. 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,592 #18 Posted February 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, rjg854 said: I have a hunch you don't "make" Trina do anything she doesn't already want to do. You're just a big ole "teddy" bear. Hey HEY!!!! Okay maybe that's just a little bit completely 100% true.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,209 #19 Posted February 2, 2022 15 hours ago, roadapples said: Like sitting around a campfire, no matter where you move the smoke blows in your face... My Boy Scouts always had a left handed smoke shifter ready for this problem. 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,828 #20 Posted February 2, 2022 I have some 2 link with vbars I can send you Plunge. Ain't no way I can use them on asphalt. They came on The 520 I got from Denny Clarke. Surprisingly unshod turfs do well even on my hill as long as I don't go off road. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,150 #21 Posted February 2, 2022 Solution for owners to keep the smoke out your face! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,307 #22 Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, WHX?? said: I have some 2 link with vbars I can send you Plunge. Ain't no way I can use them on asphalt. They came on The 520 I got from Denny Clarke. Surprisingly unshod turfs do well even on my hill as long as I don't go off road. If you have stiff 4 ply turfs, chains will cause a very rough ride. The rounded and cheap original equipment tires worked OK, I went back to those for running rubber tire chains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites