flhharley 14 #1 Posted January 20, 2022 I found a K161T on CL that I'm hoping will fit in my 1964 704. It currently has a newer electric start motor and want to get the old 7hp back in it. Can anyone tell me how to read the Spec number? What the numbers mean? The one I'm looking at buying is Model K161T Spec 281287J and Ser # 11137165. Thank you Greg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,328 #2 Posted January 20, 2022 Greg: Do you know what the engine was originally on?? Non Wheel Horse spec engines most likely will not have the thrust rated output bearing the tractor requires. Best I can tell that motor is a 1981 year of manufacture. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flhharley 14 #3 Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ri702bill said: Greg: Do you know what the engine was originally on?? Non Wheel Horse spec engines most likely will not have the thrust rated output bearing the tractor requires. Best I can tell that motor is a 1981 year of manufacture. Bill All I know it was a Kohler 7HP pull start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,905 #4 Posted January 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, ri702bill said: Greg: Do you know what the engine was originally on?? Non Wheel Horse spec engines most likely will not have the thrust rated output bearing the tractor requires. Best I can tell that motor is a 1981 year of manufacture. Bill I thought ALL Kohler engines had thrust bearings, but remember the 704 doesn’t have a side load PTO. Greg, without knowing much.., I’d say verify the crankshaft output size and you should be golden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flhharley 14 #5 Posted January 20, 2022 I just spoke to the gentleman selling the motor ad he said it came off a old wheel horse that he bought for parts. Didn't think it was original to the tractor he bought but runs perfect and doesn't smoke. Said the shaft is 3/4" and 2 1/2 " long. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,046 #6 Posted January 20, 2022 https://www.partstree.com/models/k161-281287-kohler-k-series-engine-made-for-gardenway-7hp-5-2kw/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flhharley 14 #7 Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pullstart said: I thought ALL Kohler engines had thrust bearings, but remember the 704 doesn’t have a side load PTO. Greg, without knowing much.., I’d say verify the crankshaft output size and you should be golden. Side load PTO? It is a side shaft. sorry for my ignorance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flhharley 14 #8 Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: https://www.partstree.com/models/k161-281287-kohler-k-series-engine-made-for-gardenway-7hp-5-2kw/ Thanks for finding this. I think this will work for me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,905 #9 Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, flhharley said: Side load PTO? It is a side shaft. sorry for my ignorance. No worries, we’re glad to explain. Newer models have a PTO bell on the side of the crank that push against the crankshaft bearings, our older 60’s models have a belt driven PTO system. You should be all set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,905 #10 Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, flhharley said: Said the shaft is 3/4" and 2 1/2 " long. even if your current pulley is 1” or larger, you can get a sleeve and extended keyway to make it work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flhharley 14 #11 Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Pullstart said: No worries, we’re glad to explain. Newer models have a PTO bell on the side of the crank that push against the crankshaft bearings, our older 60’s models have a belt driven PTO system. You should be all set. Great! Thank you. I'm going to go hear it run and buy it, put it on the shelf until I'm ready. Thanks everyone for all your help 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites