David417a 8 #1 Posted January 16, 2022 Hey I bought a 417a smokes oil when motor is under load. Steep inclines or heavy grass. I bought it last summer as the 312 was getting in need of some love. The 417 has around 600 hrs. Before I rebuild upper end is there anything I should consider? Lower hours and very clean machine. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,558 #2 Posted January 16, 2022 Thats a 418 A...and the unit is decent Some oddities though 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,717 #3 Posted January 16, 2022 I bought a parts tractor with a Kohler twin that smoked a lot. Checked the oil and found it was overfilled, drained the oil and put in 1 1/2 Quarts and the smoke went away. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 26,556 #5 Posted January 17, 2022 Have you changed the oil? As @953 nut said above, may be a simple fix… 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,890 #7 Posted January 17, 2022 Very clean looking tractor David. Yes as 'Nut said check the oil level. And also that the crankcase breather is clean and operating as should. Check for excess oil in the air cleaner housing. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 13,080 #8 Posted January 17, 2022 5 hours ago, johnnymag3 said: Thats a 418 A...and the unit is decent Some oddities though Yeah it is! Decent and odd! Still a nice machine. Congratulations! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,168 #9 Posted January 17, 2022 9 hours ago, kpinnc said: Yeah it is! Decent and odd! Still a nice machine. Congratulations! What is “odd” about it ?… I’m still a Newbie… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,157 #10 Posted January 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, Horse Newbie said: What is “odd” about it ?… I’m still a Newbie… Only made 1 year... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,168 #11 Posted January 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Only made 1 year... Oh… “rare”… thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David417a 8 #12 Posted January 17, 2022 What’s odd about it? For a 30 year old tractor plus or minus looks good. The grill does need to get painted black. I did look at Lowe’s and Home Depot felt this would outlast any of them. Paid 600 for it, I would not hesitate to put 1000 into it. Plus shiny hubs😜 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,890 #13 Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, David417a said: Paid 600 for it, You did real good and yes will outlast any big box cheapys. Has that tractor got a series 2 KT in it guys? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,157 #14 Posted January 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, WHX?? said: You did real good and yes will outlast any big box cheapys. Has that tractor got a series 2 KT in it guys? If it is a 418A it had a Magnum 18 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,890 #15 Posted January 17, 2022 Sure looks like a twin in there Paul and was guessing twin as the muffler type. Clearly says 418 on the hood tho. Can you get us a pic of the tag David? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David417a 8 #16 Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) Yes but it is at my land so it will be next week. It is a twin Edited January 17, 2022 by David417a 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,157 #17 Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, WHX?? said: Sure looks like a twin in there Paul and was guessing twin as the muffler type. Clearly says 418 on the hood tho. Can you get us a pic of the tag David? Magnum 18 is a twin... really a KT17 with magneto ignition. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,558 #18 Posted January 17, 2022 I have Two 418 A tractors, and a 417 A......They are really strong machines. Love them !!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,890 #19 Posted January 17, 2022 44 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Magnum 18 is a twin... really a KT17 with magneto ignition. Ok i got it ... Thanks for the schooling you can tell I'm a early sixties guy! Guessing this was a pressure lubed motor then? Going back to his first post and steep inclines I was thinking about the lubrication issues a KT 17 would have had. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,157 #20 Posted January 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Ok i got it ... Thanks for the schooling you can tell I'm a early sixties guy! Guessing this was a pressure lubed motor then? Going back to his first post and steep inclines I was thinking about the lubrication issues a KT 17 would have had. Yes pressure lubed just like the KT17 Series 2. Some specs had oil filters WH went cheap no filter 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 13,080 #21 Posted January 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: 21 hours ago, kpinnc said: Yeah it is! Decent and odd! Still a nice machine. Congratulations! What is “odd” about it ?… I’m still a Newbie… Odd was not the word I should have used. That is a nice machine! What stood out was that the nose was red, as was half of the dash tower. Of course I can't tell from the pics, but either someone did some repainting, or replaced some stuff or both. Nothing wrong with it. Better to make efforts to preserve the mechanical over the cosmetic. I would have paid what David did for it without question. He got himself a nice tractor to fix up or work with as-is. Good score! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,168 #22 Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, kpinnc said: Odd was not the word I should have used. That is a nice machine! What stood out was that the nose was red, as was half of the dash tower. Of course I can't tell from the pics, but either someone did some repainting, or replaced some stuff or both. Nothing wrong with it. Better to make efforts to preserve the mechanical over the cosmetic. I would have paid what David did for it without question. He got himself a nice tractor to fix up or work with as-is. Good score! Yeah, someone else here said it was only made one year, so I said , “Oh, y’all meant rare”. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,558 #23 Posted January 18, 2022 The 418-A is a one year Tractor....yes that is correct. Yes they are fairly rare....Nice score on the tractor...gotta paint the center front black on the hood though...looks very strage in red 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
