David1975 5 #1 Posted January 8, 2022 Opened up the gear box because I heard some tapping and it looks like the chain has been hitting the case. I know I need seals and the bearings look good but iam uncertain about the chain mainly because the chain is 150 bucks and I just don't know how to tell for sure the chain is bad my gut tells me it is and the gears look good . Any suggestions would be very appreciated!!!!! David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,036 #2 Posted January 9, 2022 Figure out what the chain size is and get a 10 foot length from a farm supply for $20-$25 bucks. Have a Northern Tool store? 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,512 #3 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, David1975 said: I just don't know how to tell for sure the chain is bad 1 - Hold the chain by one end with the links facing horizontal. A bad chain will have a very noticeable curve to it instead of holding a relatively strait line. 2 - With the chain on the sprockets, pull the chain away from the sprocket in the center of the sprocket. A bad chain will allow you to see 3/4 of the sprocket tooth or more. Edited January 9, 2022 by Achto 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David1975 5 #4 Posted January 9, 2022 Thank you for the advice I will check it out and get back with yall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #6 Posted January 9, 2022 I know nothing about these, but while it's apart I'd replace the chain. Like gwest said, cheap at Tractor Supply... and 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,317 #7 Posted January 9, 2022 11 hours ago, gwest_ca said: Figure out what the chain size is and get a 10 foot length from a farm supply for $20-$25 bucks. Have a Northern Tool store? 12 hours ago, David1975 said: because the chain is 150 bucks Is that a dealer price? A good thing to keep in mind on Wheelhorse tractors and their implements is that they were originally built using a good variety of what's called "Standard Parts". Something available widely and easily obtained. Bearings seals chains nuts bolts clips wiring plugs etc. As stated above... You're in there. Fix what it needs or you'll be... Back in there. @Achto neat trick on the chain. Also, 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David1975 5 #8 Posted January 9, 2022 Repair clinic is where I found the parts and it's not cheap lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,317 #9 Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, David1975 said: Repair clinic is where I found the parts and it's not cheap 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,317 #10 Posted January 9, 2022 Just. WOW. Seems that's the LAST place I'd buy any standard parts from. Likely most of those bearings are available from multiple aftermarket suppliers or our own wheelhorsepartsandmore. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,199 #11 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Crazy if you pay those prices! #40 chain for example, 10 feet, $14 bucks. https://thebigbearingstore.com/40-roller-chain/ @David1975 Edited January 9, 2022 by Jeff-C175 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-85 681 #12 Posted January 9, 2022 Like others I'd replace the chain, but if that's not the way to go, how about cutting the chain and putting in a half link to take up the slack? C-85 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,648 #13 Posted January 9, 2022 The sprocket also need to be checked for wear. Here is a good and worn sprocket. The question is are you just patching it up, or do you want it to last another 30 or so years. If you can measure the bearings you can find them cheaper. My guess is the repair parts place is ripping you off and providing Chinese parts. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,199 #14 Posted January 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, C-85 said: half link The half links are said to reduce the load capacity of the chain to some extent, FYI. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,199 #15 Posted January 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Lee1977 said: good and worn They can also be worn on the face side if the sprocket is 'off plane' , but this wouldn't be likely in that application. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,588 #16 Posted January 9, 2022 @David1975 , looks like a long over due service , would also recommend a magnet drain plug to help pick up any regular debris. would also definitely shop around on those parts , there are better prices out there , also look in to LUCAS specific gear oils , their lubricants really stand up . from the gearing wear and the overall look , tillers need a regular check out . regularly check your drive line / driven parts for a lubrication sign of a problem . pete 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,199 #17 Posted January 9, 2022 This sprocket appears to be pretty well worn, but without a closer up pic it's hard to say for sure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 6,991 #18 Posted January 9, 2022 Take a good look at the sprockets for wear. New chain does not always play nicely with worn sprockets. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David1975 5 #19 Posted January 9, 2022 Thanks for all the replys I picked up some chain and replaced that and clamped it together. Fashioned a pully on my drill with a shot belt and spun it over no more slap!!! Going tomorrow to a local bearing shop to locate bearing and seals. My neighbor come buy and looked it over he does farm equipment maintenance and repair said the sprockets are fine. Yall are awesome 👌 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,302 #20 Posted January 9, 2022 Most bearings and many seals have a part number on them. The OEM will assign a part number of their choosing to the parts list. Simply do your best to find the number on the part, then google that number to find a good price. Even a local farm supply will likely have a higher price than you can find, but be careful of cheap Chinese junk out there. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites