pfrederi 17,623 #1 Posted December 27, 2021 I knew this one would be tough so I pulled the whole instrument panel and steering. Put some different kinds of penetrating stuff inside it a couple times last week. Initial attempts with roll pin punch and hammer equaled nada. Bought a roll pin punch for the air chisel Tried that today figured easy game...nada.. I know it took a long time to get stuck so more soaking and waiting... 2 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,668 #2 Posted December 27, 2021 I know they are a pain, but I happen to LOVE steering wheels Paul. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,107 #3 Posted December 27, 2021 Can a roll pin be setup for removal in a shop press? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,745 #4 Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) Find yourself a buddy with a 20+ ton shop press. Remove all the stuff you can from the dash housing and wiggle / position that steering wheel and column in the press such that NOTHING obstructs or is danger of being crushed. Make damn sure the plastic of the s/wheel isn't gonna get crushed. When you get it all set up in the press, start to press the steering column down thru the steering wheel hub. In a few minutes, you will hear a loud--- BANG---. That BANG is the roll pin being sheered off. Continue to force the coulmn down and out of the s/w hub. Now it is a simple task to pinch out the 3 remaining pieces of the roll pin. I've done this several times and haven't yet ruined a steering wheel. Edited December 27, 2021 by daveoman1966 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,294 #5 Posted December 27, 2021 I'm not seeing any penetrating oil. That wood block will act as a bit of a cushion, try backing it up with heavy steel as close as possible to the steering wheel. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,623 #6 Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, lynnmor said: I'm not seeing any penetrating oil. That wood block will act as a bit of a cushion, try backing it up with heavy steel as close as possible to the steering wheel. Oil ran thru. put a cue tip in the bottom and refilled it. Block is Oak. not much cushion. Will try some more steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor27 767 #7 Posted December 28, 2021 Daveoman hit it on the head.. I figure on cutting the steering shaft most times as the attached hood stand piece won't fit in the press. I'd rather shear off the pins in a press than wreck a good wheel. Fortunately I have access to a good supply of 3/4 round bar. Keep your existing gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 54,907 #8 Posted December 28, 2021 3 hours ago, daveoman1966 said: When you get it all set up in the press, start to press the steering column down thru the steering wheel hub. In a few minutes, you will hear a loud--- BANG- Dave, I did this once and the bang was the casting inside the steering wheel shattering where the roll pin went through. Once the wheel was off the roll pin came right out of the shaft. I drilled a new hole for a role pin, put it on the shaft and drilled through the remaining casting, worked out OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,474 #9 Posted December 28, 2021 5 hours ago, pfrederi said: Bought a roll pin punch for the air chisel Tried that today figured easy game...nada Pick up a 1/4" carbide tipped concrete bit and drill that SOB out of there. Run your drill speed fast and let it chew it's way through. It won't be fast, but it will be effective. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,845 #10 Posted December 28, 2021 I don't even try to fight them any more. I simply cut the shaft with a small side grinder and cut off wheel. When it's time to reassemble I use a shaft collar from McMaster Carr. 20 bucks. But then I don't have a press. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,623 #11 Posted December 28, 2021 Feeling a bit stupid today. Soaked it again over night got more steel under the shaft and hit it again with air chisel roll pin punch. Nothing ..but the paper towel I had wrapped around the gear end (as it was greasy) fell off. Guess what the gear is held on by a roll pin that tapped right out... The wheel can stay on just clean up the shaft and new bearing... 5 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,696 #12 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Rite of passage so says Richard... along with hubs & hitch pins. What tractor we workin on here Paul ...looks to be a Commando but wheel looks '62 '63ish? Odd that the lower gear was pinned not welded? Edited December 29, 2021 by WHX?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,623 #13 Posted December 29, 2021 It is a Frankenhorse i assembled for my brother a few years ago i do not remember all the sources... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,696 #14 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Ahhh...well don't wreck that wheel then they are hen's teeth. 702 & 753 only. Pinned lower pinion would suggest that too. Every thing else is expendable. Edited December 29, 2021 by WHX?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 54,907 #15 Posted December 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Odd that the lower gear was pinned not welded? Take a look at your 1055, mine has the gear pinned to the shaft, think that was the last year that was done. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelhorse#1 1,641 #16 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) I have one that needs to come out too.But, I just keep looking at it. It’s pretty dern crusty looking.And then I decide,Ok maybe later. Be persistent.Talk to it and tell it it’s coming off,that it just doesn’t know it yet! 😉 Edited December 29, 2021 by Wheelhorse#1 Slow 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,107 #17 Posted December 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Wheelhorse#1 said: persistent Now would be a good time to get soaking it with Kroil or old school Liquid Wrench. Give it time get down in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,696 #18 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, 953 nut said: Take a look at your 1055, Will do Richard ... this 1055 build pic looks like it may have been pinned. Correct you are Dick... shows it pinned '66 shows no pin. Edited December 29, 2021 by WHX?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1973Auto 80 #19 Posted December 30, 2021 here is what I ended up doing 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,107 #20 Posted December 30, 2021 4 hours ago, 1973Auto said: here is what I ended up doing That's not as much of an issue on a more common wheel like 70s B/C series but for an older rare model a save is a win. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,696 #21 Posted December 30, 2021 3 hours ago, ebinmaine said: That's not as much of an issue on a more common wheel like 70s B/C series but for an older rare model a save is a win. Agreed EB the early sixties wheels now have a replacement. Achto has one on his 701. https://www.steinertractor.com/GTS002-Steering-Wheel 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites