I HATE steering wheels

[pfrederi 17,623]

I knew this one would be tough so I pulled the whole instrument panel and steering.  Put some different kinds of penetrating stuff inside it a couple times last week.  Initial attempts with roll pin punch and hammer equaled  nada.  Bought a roll pin punch for the air chisel  Tried that today figured easy game...nada.. I know it took a long time to get stuck so more soaking and waiting...

 

 

[Pullstart 62,668]

I know they are a pain, but I happen to LOVE steering wheels Paul.  

[ebinmaine 67,107]

Can a roll pin be setup for removal in a shop press?

 

[daveoman1966 3,745]

Find yourself a buddy with a 20+ ton shop press.  Remove all the stuff you can from the dash housing and wiggle / position that steering wheel and column in the press such that NOTHING obstructs or is danger of being crushed.  Make damn sure the plastic of the s/wheel isn't gonna get crushed.  When you get it all set up in the press, start to press the steering column down thru the steering wheel hub.  In a few minutes, you will hear a loud--- BANG---.  That BANG is the roll pin being sheered off.  Continue to force the coulmn down and out of the s/w hub. Now it is a simple task to pinch out the 3 remaining pieces of the roll pin.  I've done this several times and haven't yet ruined a steering wheel.

Edited December 27, 2021 by daveoman1966

[lynnmor 7,294]

I'm not seeing any penetrating oil.  That wood block will act as a bit of a cushion, try backing it up with heavy steel as close as possible to the steering wheel.

[pfrederi 17,623]

2 hours ago, lynnmor said:

I'm not seeing any penetrating oil.  That wood block will act as a bit of a cushion, try backing it up with heavy steel as close as possible to the steering wheel.

Oil ran thru.  put a cue tip in the bottom and refilled it. Block is Oak. not much cushion.  Will try some more steel. 

[Thor27 767]

Daveoman hit it on the head.. I figure on cutting the steering shaft most times as the attached hood stand piece won't fit in the press. I'd rather shear off the pins in a press than wreck a good wheel. Fortunately I have access to a good supply of 3/4 round bar. Keep your existing gear.

[953 nut 54,907]

3 hours ago, daveoman1966 said:

When you get it all set up in the press, start to press the steering column down thru the steering wheel hub.  In a few minutes, you will hear a loud--- BANG-

Dave, I did this once and the bang was the casting inside the steering wheel shattering where the roll pin went through. Once the wheel was off the roll pin came right out of the shaft. I drilled a new hole for a role pin, put it on the shaft and drilled through the remaining casting, worked out OK.

[Achto 27,474]

5 hours ago, pfrederi said:

Bought a roll pin punch for the air chisel  Tried that today figured easy game...nada

 

 

Pick up a 1/4" carbide tipped concrete bit and drill that SOB out of there. Run your drill speed fast and let it chew it's way through. It won't be fast, but it will be effective. 

[Gregor 4,845]

I don't even try to fight them any more. I simply cut the shaft with a small side grinder and cut off wheel. When it's time to reassemble I use a shaft collar from McMaster Carr. 20 bucks. But then I don't have a press.

[pfrederi 17,623]

Feeling a bit stupid today.  Soaked it again over night got more steel under the shaft and hit it again with air chisel roll pin punch.  Nothing ..but the paper towel I had wrapped around the gear end (as it was greasy) fell off.  Guess what the gear is held on by a roll pin that tapped right out...

The wheel can stay on just clean up the shaft and new bearing...

 

[WHX?? 48,696]

Rite of passage so says Richard... along with hubs & hitch pins. 

What tractor we workin on here Paul ...looks to be a Commando but wheel looks '62 '63ish? 

Odd that the lower gear was pinned not welded? 

Edited December 29, 2021 by WHX??

[pfrederi 17,623]

It is a Frankenhorse i assembled for my brother a few years ago i do not remember all the sources...

[WHX?? 48,696]

Ahhh...well don't wreck that wheel then they are hen's teeth. 702 & 753 only. Pinned lower pinion would suggest that too. Every thing else is expendable. 

Edited December 29, 2021 by WHX??

[953 nut 54,907]

24 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Odd that the lower gear was pinned not welded?

Take a look at your 1055, mine has the gear pinned to the shaft, think that was the last year that was done.

[Wheelhorse#1 1,641]

I have one that needs to come out too.But, I just keep looking at it.

It’s pretty dern crusty looking.And then I decide,Ok maybe later.

 

Be persistent.Talk to it and tell it it’s coming off,that it just doesn’t know it yet! 😉

Edited December 29, 2021 by Wheelhorse#1
Slow

[ebinmaine 67,107]

6 hours ago, Wheelhorse#1 said:

persistent

Now would be a good time to get soaking it with Kroil or old school Liquid Wrench. 

Give it time get down in.  

[WHX?? 48,696]

15 hours ago, 953 nut said:

Take a look at your 1055,

Will do Richard ... this 1055 build pic looks like it may have been pinned. 

 

Correct you are Dick... shows it pinned 

 

'66 shows no pin. 

Edited December 29, 2021 by WHX??

[1973Auto 80]

here is what I ended up doing

 

[ebinmaine 67,107]

4 hours ago, 1973Auto said:

here is what I ended up doing

 

 

That's not as much of an issue on a more common wheel like 70s B/C series but for an older rare model a save is a win. 

[WHX?? 48,696]

3 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

That's not as much of an issue on a more common wheel like 70s B/C series but for an older rare model a save is a win. 

Agreed EB the early sixties wheels now have a replacement. Achto has one on his 701. 

https://www.steinertractor.com/GTS002-Steering-Wheel