giddyap 1,569 #1 Posted December 21, 2021 It was 12-21-2012 when we all survived the end of the world. Who could forget? So now 9 years later on this day of the winter solitice I took a couple scientific notations. I marked my flag's shadow on the ground to show where the sun was in the sky and I measured a 11'5 shadow from my 5'8 frame at high noon. So what went wrong with that crazy Mayan prediction or more correctly their calculation? Nothing! Their 26,000 year measure was right on target when the earth crossed the plane of our MilkyWay galaxy. Earth does not have a stable position, instead it wobbels as if it bounces up and down on it's 240 million year journey around the galaxy. It was only the end of a cycle. The Mayan civilization was about a 1000 years ago and their observations so precise their 3 part calendar measured astrological events. And today the 5126 year section cycled out. I'm so impressed that these two dates and Appllo 11 occured in my lifetime. As I wrote this I discovered the precise time the sun was directly over the Tropic of Cancer was 10:29am. That ruins my calendar project. https://hhsancientmaya.weebly.com/calendar.html 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,739 #2 Posted December 21, 2021 Fascinating things going on there. Without looking it up...that passing of the Earth through the plane of the galaxy happens every so often. Looking back, that event matches up with many significant changes...like the dinos passing, the ice age, and others. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,739 #3 Posted December 21, 2021 Good timing..."How the Universe Works" is on the Science Channel all day today. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #4 Posted December 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: Good timing..."How the Universe Works" is on the Science Channel all day today. 8 pm is new "Hubble:30 years of discoveries" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,739 #5 Posted December 21, 2021 I'm thinking it is this series that talked about the Earth passing through the plane of the Galaxy...don't know for sure or iff they will show that today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,739 #6 Posted December 21, 2021 https://www.google.com/search?q=earth+and+the+plane+of+the+galaxy&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS865US865&oq=earth+and+the+plane+of+the+galaxy&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i22i29i30i395.22372j1j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #7 Posted December 21, 2021 Gimme about 3 1/2 more hours and I'll ponder all this at cocktail hour ... I can see you guys started a little early! 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #8 Posted December 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: passing of the Earth through the plane of the galaxy happens every so often. Looking back, that event matches up with many significant changes...like the dinos passing, the ice age, and others. Aha, now I know what you meant "every so often." Earth passes thru the galaxy's equator every 26000 years. 30 million years from now we will pass thru the plane and that contains most of the galaxy's mass. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,739 #9 Posted December 21, 2021 I did not remember the time frame, that's why I said "every so often". 26,000 years...a blink of an eye in galactic time. @WHX?? didn't you retire once already...Navy. Ever stand out on that ship and look up and wonder how things work...that is the Myan blood in you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #10 Posted December 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: Ever stand out on that ship and look up and wonder how things work... Many times Dino many.... since there was no booze on board tho I always just thought it was too much blood in my alcohol system. 1 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,739 #11 Posted December 21, 2021 I envy you being in places where you can look up and see that, Jim. I had that stationed in Maine in the 70's, but I can't get away from the light anymore around here. Sometimes, up in the UP, Michigan we could do that. Fishing trips to Canada- Lac Soul was great for star viewing. New Mexico, Philmont Scout Ranch was top notch also. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,111 #12 Posted December 21, 2021 I used to go down to the Sampson Naval Base (Now a state park) and be able to get away from the light. The first time I did it I couldn't believe it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,496 #13 Posted December 21, 2021 2 hours ago, stevasaurus said: Maine Every cloud free night here brother man. Stop by anytime. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,228 #14 Posted December 22, 2021 5 hours ago, giddyap said: Earth does not have a stable position, instead it wobbels as if it bounces up and down on it's 240 million year journey around the galaxy. Watched a PBS program a year or so back that said the earth's axis is shifting at a predictable rate, they calculate our next ice age will begin in about 10,000 years. I don't like extreme cold weather so I'm glad I won't be here. Seems the foreseeable movement of the earths axis has a lot more to do with climate change than anything else. The Vostok, East Antarctica ice core demonstrates 420,000 years of climate change. Here is a link to a short article on the ice core. https://cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #15 Posted December 22, 2021 3 hours ago, stevasaurus said: I envy you being in places where you can look up and see that, Jim. Thank you Steve.... once when I was on Great Lakes cruise coming out of the St. Larry seaway it made one wonder. (another whole sea story) the northern lights. Getting back to Giddys orginal thoughts remember the Y2K thing when all computers were supposed to stop? Didn't that have to do with something about the end of the Mayan calendar Giddy ? Or am I on crack? No matter ... calls for a pic.... L to R Giddy, Dan , Caleb ( @PeacemakerJack) boy and I. I'll never forget this ...it was raining pitchforks and hammer handles and we dodged inside to load Giddy's trailer. Had to remove some front wheels if I recollect right to get her loaded. BS 2018. To me friendships is what this is and what the universe is made of. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,226 #16 Posted December 22, 2021 4 hours ago, squonk said: I used to go down to the Sampson Naval Base (Now a state park) and be able to get away from the light. The first time I did it I couldn't believe it. Just up the road from Babcock Hovey Scout Camp where I worked as a counselor. We'd do star walks with the campers on the parade field and it was just amazing to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,226 #17 Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, WHX?? said: remember the Y2K thing when all computers were supposed to stop? Vividly. I spent 1999 leading a five-person coding team that did nothing else but make sure that it would be a non-event at our company and we succeeded. Then more than a couple of folks asked "Hey, nothing broke, what was the big deal?" Sigh. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #18 Posted December 22, 2021 10 hours ago, WHX?? said: the Y2K thing when all computers were supposed to stop? Didn't that have to do with something about the end of the Mayan calendar I could be wrong but I believe Y2K and 12/21/12 were seperate doomsday predictions. The two events may have blended together being only 12 years apart. I haven't heard a thing about 2/22/22 https://www.timeanddate.com/date/doomsday-rule.html I remember that rainey day, it was the first time I met everybody. I bought a parts tractor and Dan wanted the tires. My offer still stands if you want to stop and rest on your way to the Big Show. I'm about 10 hours from Oshkosh and 6 hours to the BS 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,228 #19 Posted December 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, giddyap said: I haven't heard a thing about 2/22/22 Here ya go! Tutu, tutu, tutu, tutu, tutu. 11 hours ago, WHX?? said: To me friendships is what this is and what the universe is made of. Those are words to live by. I remember meeting all four of you for the fist time at the 2018 Bis show. The rain didn't diminish the enjoyment of sharing time with new friends. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #20 Posted December 22, 2021 59 minutes ago, giddyap said: My offer still stands if you want to stop and rest on your way to the Big Show. I'm about 10 hours from Oshkosh and 6 hours to the BS Just may take you up on that sometime. Dan and I may do a BS speed run to sell parts and hob nob with Hosen n the boys. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,226 #21 Posted December 22, 2021 We're just about over the hump waiting for the next BS. Six months down and six to go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giddyap 1,569 #22 Posted December 22, 2021 Sidebar: I include these marbles in my Apollo tribute. The Yellow arch in the corner of the room is the 15 foot sun to scale but should be located down the street https://www.ebay.com/itm/124703675329?hash=item1d08eb13c1:g:2RMAAOSwkPRgjBUu 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,739 #23 Posted December 22, 2021 I think the computer thingy in 2000 was all about the computer clock being able to recognize time past 1999. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,226 #24 Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: I think the computer thingy in 2000 was all about the computer clock being able to recognize time past 1999. 1999 to 2000 is what we needed--easy to distinguish. What we had all over the place in the code was "99" going to "00". Oops. When my team tested our payroll applications in January 1999 (on a computer we had set up to think it was January 1, 2000) the apps failed within seconds. I can tell you that explaining that no one is getting paid because of a "computer glitch" was not an appealing option. Edited December 22, 2021 by Handy Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,228 #25 Posted December 23, 2021 6 hours ago, stevasaurus said: I think the computer thingy in 2000 was all about the computer clock being able to recognize time past 1999. I was an operator at a nuclear power plant when Y2K was such a big concern. The entire transition had been rehearsed on the training simulator several times and everyone was satisfied that it wasn't going to be a problem. Just to be on the safe side a plan was developed to eliminate the possibility of a computer malfunction. We had three shifts on site and everything was placed in manual control (took about ten hours) during the day on 12/31/1999. As midnight came and went we found that every automatic action that was controlled by a computer would have functioned just fine. Now everything had to be taken from manual back to automatic, this process took much longer because every transition had to stabilize before the next step could be made. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites