Murray to IH 1568

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

Well I went to the hydraulic shop today since I hadn't heard of them since I dropped of my pump and cylinder.

Good news and bad news.. the good news is they checked and serviced my cylinder, total cost €35 or $36

The bad news, my Sunstrand pump is basically junk. The bearings are gone and ate away at the axles and seals. Not economical to rebuild sadly.

The hydraulic shop offered me a new pump complete with bearing-block to be driven by a pulley (pulley not included). Total cost of €250 or $260, zoinks  

 

[Handy Don 12,217]

18 hours ago, sjoemie himself said:

Sunstrand pump is basically junk

Is the the motion pump or the one you plan to use for the hydraulics?

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

The one I was going to use for the hy-u-draulics

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

Since the whole hydraulic pump situation is a bit of a challenge and i've got to re-think the setup I turned my attention to the brakes.

I was going to use some calipers of a small car, Peugeot 106 but it turned out that, although small, they were to big to fit between the frame and the caliper.

My dad pointed me to motorcycle calipers of some vintage bikes. So I went a bought a set of calipers off a '77 Honda CB 750.

Almost fit but the discs were a little to thick. So I skimmed both sides and made them fit.

Next up mounting the calipers to the frame. Needed a bracket. Using Cardboard Aided Design I made a template and then transferred it to steel.

Some welding later gave me this nice mount.

There is still some flex in the frame but I think that will won't be an issue.

Edited May 21, 2022 by sjoemie himself
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[JPWH 6,033]

Looking good!

[Handy Don 12,217]

4 hours ago, sjoemie himself said:

Some welding later gave me this nice mount

Dang you are good at welding. Those are beautiful.

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

11 hours ago, Handy Don said:

good

Thanks! I'm not an expert by a long shot, but practice does help improve my welds for sure.

[EB-80/8inPA 1,641]

Well you must have been practicing a lot.  Those welds look fantastic.

[Dan.gerous 2,696]

1 hour ago, sjoemie himself said:

Thanks! I'm not an expert by a long shot, but practice does help improve my welds for sure.

Tig welder?

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

1 hour ago, Dan.gerous said:

Tig

 Yes

[Dan.gerous 2,696]

9 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

 Yes

Phew! You had me worried, those welds are beautiful 😍 

 

Must buy a tig next.

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

37 minutes ago, Dan.gerous said:

worried

No need to worry, just use what you've got.

 

That being said, buying a TIG machine is something you probably won't regret. I've got mine for about a year now and i'm using it more and more.

Quality of the welds is better, also stronger if you know what you're doing, less cleanup and it's a little bit neater look overall.

The disadvantage is the required skill, also it's a slower process and you need both hands (most of the time).

 

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

I never did show my hood now did I? 

Better late than never.. my dad bent op some sheetmetal according to a buck I made to follow the shape of the grille as closely as possible. This is the result. Unfortunately I had to notch the hood to make the cylinderheads fit. No biggie in itself but the "International" sticker will read something like "Inte_____onal". 

 

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

WAUW! dat is wat BEEFY metaalwerk Sjoemie!

[Maxwell-8 4,275]

11 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said:

WAUW! dat is wat BEEFY metaalwerk Sjoemie!

indeed, she ain't going to be light haha

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

It's not that I didn't warn you guys 

But you're right, I probably could've gone lighter on the sheetmetal gauge but I just don't like (working with) flimsy stuff.

 

My only concern are the front tyres, not that they can't handle the load, but more the fact that they're quite narrow and might sink into the dirt.. might have to go for something with a little more flotation..

[Snoopy11 5,714]

On 5/22/2022 at 12:42 PM, sjoemie himself said:

The disadvantage is the required skill

Skill... which I.... do not have...

 

I tried TIG ...1 time...

 

I will never attempt that again...

 

MIG 120 and 220 all the way for me!!!

 

 

 

Don

[Snoopy11 5,714]

18 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said:

WAUW! dat is wat BEEFY metaalwerk Sjoemie!

Wiffout a doubt...

 

BUT... hey... if you want to use it as a bulldozer...

 

Hell of a job Sjoemie... Imma be following this... grinning from ear to ear!!!

 

Don

[Dan.gerous 2,696]

33 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

Skill... which I.... do not have...

 

I tried TIG ...1 time...

 

I will never attempt that again...

 

MIG 120 and 220 all the way for me!!!

 

 

 

Don

We have one at work, one day I'm going to sneak down to the engine room and have a go on it.

 

Get back on that horse Don, you might be surprised after a second try 😉 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

2 minutes ago, Dan.gerous said:

Get back on that horse Don, you might be surprised after a second try

I had a picture of myself TIG welding... and the outcome... but I can't seem to find it anywhere...

 

It was really funny... I got pretty flustered.

 

The most funny thing about it is... one of my family members was a 'master' welder... yet... he pretty much decided that I wasn't worthy of his time in teaching me welding tricks.

 

I did listen to him a lot though... tell stories... talk about welding... and I still learned a lot specifically about MIG welding...

 

Don

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

22 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said:

BEEFY

 

Thanks! That didn't translate to well I guess 

 

@Snoopy11 first of all, thanks!

Second, I agree with mister @Dan.gerous

pick up the tig torch again and give it a go.

 

My advice would be to don't bother with the filler rod straight away. Just take a piece of steel and make some puddles and then 'beads' to get the basics down, angle of the torch, stickout of the tungsten, speed, amperage and so on.

 

Step two would be to get two (or more) nice and square pieces and fuseweld them together, still without using filler rod. When that goes well add the filler rod and.. keep practicing. You'll get there eventually..

Oh also, might not hurt to have a bench grinder or other make-point-on-tungsten-again-machine handy when you first get started! 

Edited May 26, 2022 by sjoemie himself
Typo, thanks to lovely auto-correct

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

27 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

didn't translate to well

 

Mrs. Google is pretty smart, but Dutch isn't her strong suit!

 

Maybe MEATY would have done better?  LOL!

 

Or...  gespierd perhaps?

 

Edited May 26, 2022 by Jeff-C175

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

Meaty is better but 'gespierd'!?  That means something like beefy but as in beefy like a bodybuilder.. 'gespierd' refers to muscles.

 

I think the word I would use is 'stevig' which translates to solid or firm.

 

This reminds me of another thread about the word 'shed' 

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

13 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

muscles

 

 

"Arghhh, I wish I had Power Steering on my Wheel Horse / IH ! "

 

 

[sjoemie himself 3,068]

So i've run the numbers on the hydraulics.

The pump I had with 16cc per rev. is way to big for what I need.

 

The cylinder for the 3 point has a volume of 194cc and the tipper cylinder has a volume of about 3060cc.

According to my caculations that would mean the three point would be raised in about 0.3 seconds and the tipper in about 3.6 seconds, that is if the engine wouldn't die and/or other components wouldn't fail.

 

So I went looking for smaller pumps with about 5 or 6 cc per rev.

That still brings the 3 point up in .7 or .6 seconds which is way too fast but the tipper should be up in about 10 to 12 seconds which is good.

 

This means ofcourse that I need a restrictor to the three point to be able to dose the upward movement and to not launch the tractor and/or myself.

My question there is, since the 3 point cylinder is a single acting one do I need a one-way control valve or a two way control valve?

 

Other comments or suggestions are also much appreciated.