PetesPonies1 117 #1 Posted December 10, 2021 Charger 12 . . . I was thinking of running a hydro pump from the PTO pulley on the right side. That way I can start and stop the hydro pump?? No mowing deck will ever be on this machine once the loader is on. Any ideas of what pump to buy and mount? Any pics? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #2 Posted December 10, 2021 @wallfish???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,800 #3 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) What flavor PTO Pete? Electric? Mechanical? Most guys custom mount it on the lower frame rail just below the crank. But it can be slid forward abit for clearance of Hy lines but be careful for clearance on front tires. Northern Tool has a nice selection of pumps. Lots of threads here on doing it. I have no pics of mine running on a 520 tho. Others will be along to advise.... thers Apples now. Edited December 10, 2021 by WHX?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #4 Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, WHX?? said: What flavor PTO Pete? Electric? Mechanical? Most guys custom mount it on the lower frame rail just below the crank. But it can be slid forward abit for clearance of Hy lines. Northern Tool has a nice selection of pumps. Lots of threads here on doing it. I have no pics of mine running on a 520 tho. Others will be along to advise.... thers Apples now. The factory electric PTO clutch on the engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,800 #5 Posted December 10, 2021 Oh sure 'Apples chuck him off to the Fish! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #6 Posted December 10, 2021 Mine's factory. It's a Cessna. Best I can do... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,800 #7 Posted December 10, 2021 Well then yer ok then 'Apples I don't care what Dan or the 'Fish says about you ! I was going to suggest Ponies research some of the OEM stuff for some ideas on what they do and copy with some improvements . My pump is located just below the PTO (mechanical) and works good. The belt that drives it is a abit loose and squeals abit when you bottom out the rams but I consider that a good thing to let an operator to know end of travel and let off the spool right away. @rmaynard may have some pics on one he did? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #8 Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, WHX?? said: Well then yer ok then 'Apples I don't care what Dan or the 'Fish says about you ! I was going to suggest Ponies research some of the OEM stuff for some ideas on what they do and copy with some improvements . My pump is located just below the PTO (mechanical) and works good. The belt that drives it is a abit loose and squeals abit when you bottom out the rams but I consider that a good thing to let an operator to know end of travel and let off the spool right away. @rmaynard may have some pics on one he did? Which models had a separate pump OEM ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #9 Posted December 10, 2021 Best I can do tonight. Muffler has been moved... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #10 Posted December 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, roadapples said: Best I can do tonight. Muffler has been moved... Thanks. What model is that?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #11 Posted December 10, 2021 550 Ark loader on a 74 C160. The pump is factory. Pretty sure it's a Cessna... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,800 #12 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, PetesPonies1 said: Which models had a separate pump OEM ? If I understand you right they all did. If you go in the files section there will be manuals with IPLs for most of them. Early FELs might have been a Johnson. Later ones a Ark or Kwik Way. Here is a fine selection of pumps. https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_hydraulics+hydraulic-pumps Edited December 10, 2021 by WHX?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,040 #13 Posted December 10, 2021 .5 Cu In. Pump on my Power King from the Surplus Center. Maybe give you some ideas. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,035 #14 Posted December 10, 2021 Make sure to get a pump designed to be belt driven. Shaft driven pumps don't have bearings to take the side thrust. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,302 #15 Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: Make sure to get a pump designed to be belt driven. Shaft driven pumps don't have bearings to take the side thrust. It is difficult to find a belt drive pump, I used this one and mounted it on my sub-frame. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,986 #16 Posted December 10, 2021 Here's the pump I used for my back hoe and will work perfect for a loader too. It will handle the side load of a pulley and belt drive https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=48&Ntt=.517+hydraulic+pump 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #17 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, wallfish said: Here's the pump I used for my back hoe and will work perfect for a loader too. It will handle the side load of a pulley and belt drive https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=48&Ntt=.517+hydraulic+pump Thanks. It seems not many will actually state they can be driven by a pulley. Edited December 10, 2021 by PetesPonies1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,116 #18 Posted December 10, 2021 My Johnson Workhorse loader has a pump bracket attached to the subframe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #19 Posted December 11, 2021 I can get some Cessnas, but don't have any idea how much fluid they move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #20 Posted December 11, 2021 11 hours ago, squonk said: .5 Cu In. Pump on my Power King from the Surplus Center. Maybe give you some ideas. Which one did you use from there? It's made for a pulley? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
