Jrain 276 #1 Posted December 9, 2021 So I just saved my second WH from the scrap pile, so again no history from a PO , its a 1973 auto 16 , looks pretty solid and unmolested , after taking a good look at this tractor I found something I did not like. this is what noticed ,air cleaner was off , fuel tank was off (that is Missing ) The battery cables had automotive top post terminals not your standard small engine battery Leads , My guess would be someone tried to get this 16 Auto running and used a car battery to do so , So my question to the experts is if this was done what Havoc did it do to the charging system and starting system . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,739 #2 Posted December 9, 2021 The size and terminal type wouldn't cause any issues. Older WH came with full size batteries and clamp on terminals.... Excessively ling cranking can cause issues with the starter motor 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,496 #3 Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) I've seen a few of those older ones with those top post cables. I don't know if they were OE WH or not. I do actually have several automotive group 51 batteries and those are top posts and they will fit along with a group 22NF. Properly operating starting and charging system will only draw what it needs so putting a bigger battery in doesn't hurt anything. Edited December 9, 2021 by ebinmaine 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,571 #4 Posted December 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: 24 NF. A group 22NFD is a garden tractor battery that has top post like a automotive battery. This is the stock size battery for my Raider 12. They are a little more spendy than the U1 G.T. batteries https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/road-runner-lawn-garden-battery-grp-22-12-mo-360-cca/0000000282379?bc=12937|13885|13892 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,496 #5 Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Achto said: A group 22NFD is a garden tractor battery that has top post like a automotive battery. This is the stock size battery for my Raider 12. They are a little more spendy than the U1 G.T. batteries https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/road-runner-lawn-garden-battery-grp-22-12-mo-360-cca/0000000282379?bc=12937|13885|13892 Thanks Dan. I went back and corrected that. 👍 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,571 #6 Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jrain said: So my question to the experts is if this was done what Havoc did it do to the charging system and starting system . Top post, side post, bolt on ears, wing nuts, the type of connection for the battery means nothing. As long as it is a 12v battery. Edited December 9, 2021 by Achto 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #7 Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Achto said: Top post, side post, bolt on ears, wing nuts, the type of connection for the battery means nothing. As long as it is a 12v battery. Ok thank you for the quick response , just thought that when you use a battery rated for let say 600 plus cranking amps on a 400 cranking amp designed system there might be a issue , I know on a motorcycle they say if you let say jump start it with a car battery you can burn the stator out Edited December 9, 2021 by Jrain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,496 #8 Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Jrain said: Ok thank you for the quick response , just thought that when you use a battery rated for let say 600 plus cranking amps on a 400 cranking amp designed system there might be a issue You're okay as far as that goes. While you're messing around with that thing remove the battery cables from their connections, clean them a bit and reinstall. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #9 Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, ebinmaine said: You're okay as far as that goes. While you're messing around with that thing remove the battery cables from their connections, clean them a bit and reinstall. Ok yea thank for the info , will not be getting in to this tractor for a few weeks , but I intend on doing soo .cheers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #10 Posted December 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Thanks Dan. I went back and corrected that. 👍 Ah did not know that , Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marv 924 #11 Posted December 10, 2021 This from Save Old Iron (chuck) Marv Battery Discussion Info.docx 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RED-Z06 2,221 #12 Posted December 10, 2021 Should have no effect on it, you can have (2) 12v batteries wired up for 1200cca at 12v and it will only flow as much amperage as is drawn by the starter, the charging system only sees 12v...it doesn't care how many amps is there its only going to hit its regulated limit. I had a 78dts truck battery rated at 750cca in my old 18hp deere...worked great 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 2,991 #13 Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 6:32 PM, Marv said: This from Save Old Iron (chuck) Marv Battery Discussion Info.docx 22.5 kB · 6 downloads Anybody know what happen to Chuck ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
