Another one saved from the scrap guy

[Jrain 276]

Howdy all ,Well I Stopped by my scrap buddy place and low and behold had to rescue another one from his cutting torch ,  Seems to be a 1973 Automatic 16 , everything seems solid  even the steering is nice and tight , the mule is there but no deck  ,engine spins free . tires are pretty good also , fluids do not look bad , all hydraulic parts are in tack,  missing the fuel tank  but other then that seems like a nice solid unmolested WH . Have not had the chance to finish the Hydraulics on my C120 so need to get to that first before I start reviving this one , my plan was to finish the C120 test my home made gravel road grader with it , then break down the c120 for paint ,but I will hold of on the break down and paint, get this Auto 16 up and running then tear them both down and paint them at the same time .

[roadapples 6,983]

Great tractor. And if it's going to be stored inside you can keep the patina. Paint is over rated.....

[ebinmaine 67,593]

Excellent save! Very highly desirable model for those that know what they're looking for...

[D_Mac 8,620]

I agree about holding off on painting it. Power wash it and break out the elbow grease. That paint will clean up nicely.

[Skwerl58 704]

Nice save! I see that it has the clevis hitch and with hydro lift that is a plus! I would love to have a lift one on my 414-8 when I am using the garden equipment.

[Sodaking27 777]

Great save. Looks to be in really good shape.

[Jrain 276]

2 minutes ago, sodaking27 said:

Great save. Looks to be in really good shape.

It is in nice shape ,but we shall see how the engine and drivetrain are after I go through it ,seem to be all there but  will be on the hunt for a fuel tank 

[ebinmaine 67,593]

2 minutes ago, Jrain said:

fuel tank 

Horses used the same tank from around 1968 up to 1977. Only difference is early ones were red and the rest were black.

 

I like the look of the older metal tanks so I'll likely have a plastic one for sale sometime fairly soon.  

 

[chip61 658]

Nice!! That looks better than the C160 that I use all the time. Great machine, glad you were able to save it.

[Jrain 276]

12 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Horses used the same tank from around 1968 up to 1977. Only difference is early ones were red and the rest were black.

 

I like the look of the older metal tanks so I'll likely have a plastic one for sale sometime fairly soon.  

 

Yes I assumed that because it has the same hold down bracket as my C120 But yes keep me in mind if you put one up for sale . Cheers

[Moparfanforever 851]

It is great you saved another WH , what a powerhouse!!

[pfrederi 17,741]

36 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Horses used the same tank from around 1968 up to 1977. Only difference is early ones were red and the rest were black.

 

I like the look of the older metal tanks so I'll likely have a plastic one for sale sometime fairly soon.  

 

Actually Eric they used at least 3 different tanks

 these are all 68/69 Chargers

 

The steel tank is small and since she now has a k-341 and a blower it doesn't last long.  Can't swap tanks as the hood stand is different the shelfi s too short...

 

 

[kpinnc 12,083]

I'm always looking for a C-160, and you find one in a scrap heap?

 

You did well!

[ebinmaine 67,593]

20 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

68/69 Chargers

That plastic tank with the sideways strap. That's how my 70 Charger was set up when I got it.

I was looking at that tank and that strap the other day in the shed wondering how that worked.

 

Pretty cool to see the differences there. Thanks for posting those pics.

 

[sparkie333 265]

3 hours ago, Jrain said:

Howdy all ,Well I Stopped by my scrap buddy place and low and behold had to rescue another one from his cutting torch ,  Seems to be a 1973 Automatic 16 , everything seems solid  even the steering is nice and tight , the mule is there but no deck  ,engine spins free . tires are pretty good also , fluids do not look bad , all hydraulic parts are in tack,  missing the fuel tank  but other then that seems like a nice solid unmolested WH . Have not had the chance to finish the Hydraulics on my C120 so need to get to that first before I start reviving this one , my plan was to finish the C120 test my home made gravel road grader with it , then break down the c120 for paint ,but I will hold of on the break down and paint, get this Auto 16 up and running then tear them both down and paint them at the same time .

 

Great save---I'm looking for a muffler and set up just like yours. ---Can you show how the automatic works as to where to go forward and reverse Thanks My 76 C160 automatic has a leaver right by my right leg --I can grab on to it and rest my hand on my knee so I can go forward or reverse as quick as a rabbit. I kinda like these tractors.

Edited December 9, 2021 by sparkie333
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[953 nut 55,298]

4 hours ago, Jrain said:

will be on the hunt for a fuel tank

Wouldn't be to hard to come by. Perhaps @Pullstart, @Ed Kennell or @daveoman1966 may have one.

[ohiofarmer 3,276]

On the paint it not to paint issue, there is a middle ground of sorts.. Paint the wheels. Not white, but linen white. If the inside of the wheels are oily or black on the rear, replace the oil seals. Patina tractors look well ordered with nice wheels 

  Stage two paint for me would be wheels plus the tins. Then paint the cast iron and frame rails with a brush.  Rust-Oleum red primer will forgive a bit of oil and still cover. For me it's just not worth it to paint between the spaces under the tractor. Unless it produces satisfaction knowing that everything is perfect.

 

 

 

[Pullstart 62,905]

I believe I do have a plastic tank recently pulled from a C-160 Auto.  

[ZXT 2,401]

11 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

I believe I do have a plastic tank recently pulled from a C-160 Auto.  

Whats it gonna have for a tank if you get rid of it?

 

Also, Jrain, super find... Hydro lift, clevis hitch, and an electric PTO. That my friend is a very useful tractor.

[Retired Wrencher 5,464]

17 hours ago, roadapples said:

Great tractor. And if it's going to be stored inside you can keep the patina. Paint is over rated.....

Agreed! Only original one time plus it is a hassle. I think just use it and enjoy it. I only rub in Marvel on all Wheel Horse equipment.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Retierd Wrencher

[Jrain 276]

20 hours ago, kpinnc said:

I'm always looking for a C-160, and you find one in a scrap heap?

 

You did well!

So this is my second save about 6 montha ago I saved a c120 witch I kept , and a B-80 witch I got running and sold , My long time friend does scrap for a living  and over the years I watch him cut up so much good stuff then off to the scrapers , he only sees  type of metals and weight in his words IT ALL JUNK , I have rescued over the year everything from ford 2n , 8n  , 9 n tractors to cars trucks motorcycle ATVs ,old drill presses ,old  band saws all kinds of tools,  people throw away good stuff , most stuff I fix and sell other stuff I keep like, I kept a 10k generac Generators 67 hrs on it cleaned the carb runs like a dream , I can not tell you how many garden tractors I have seen cut up by him over the years hundreds maybe a thousand , I never though about saving garden tractors till I took a recent interest in them because I wanted something to maintain my gravel road and driveway , I7 years prior I grabbed a Toro wheel horse 212-5 mower  from him got it running and been cutting my grass with it ever since ,So Wheel horse was what I wanted since I new they were good tractors . He know now to call me when he gets a WH . a few pics of WH  I saved so far

Edited December 10, 2021 by Jrain
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[kpinnc 12,083]

I sometimes have to remind myself that the majority of people just have no mechanical aptitude whatsoever, and don't know the difference between a garden tractor that can't be replaced and a Murray mower with shiny paint. 

 

Big box stores have made billions off these folks. Not saying these people are stupid or anything, but they are kinda stupid!

[Handy Don 12,235]

1 hour ago, kpinnc said:

I sometimes have to remind myself that the majority of people just have no mechanical aptitude whatsoever, and don't know the difference between a garden tractor that can't be replaced and a Murray mower with shiny paint. 

 

Big box stores have made billions off these folks. Not saying these people are stupid or anything, but they are kinda stupid!

I'm often tempted to think along these lines until I realize that I have no aptitude whatsoever for so many things--chemistry, office politics, understanding "illogical (as defined by me)" people, and choosing color schemes come to mind but there are many others. I'm very rudimentary at cooking or planning meals, as another example, but I love to eat food prepared by others and am happy to clean up the kitchen. 

One of my closest friends is now bedridden at home and I went to do some cleaning to lighten the load on his caregiving spouse. I discovered their vacuum cleaner has a broken beater bar belt. The spouse said "Ah, that hasn't worked well for a while. Should I buy a new one?" She has a flip phone and carries an address book because adding speed dial numbers to the phone is beyond her. She is an artist and has created some amazing pieces but in her mind a broken vacuum is simply something to replace and a phone is to dial and receive calls. Pretty sure pretty much any RS member could replace the belt for about $10 and that's what I'll do.

 

I do agree though, that the "mechanical" gene is not widespread.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Handy Don

[Jrain 276]

2 hours ago, Handy Don said:

I'm often tempted to think along these lines until I realize that I have no aptitude whatsoever for so many things--chemistry, office politics, understanding "illogical (as defined by me)" people, and choosing color schemes come to mind but there are many others. I'm very rudimentary at cooking or planning meals, as another example, but I love to eat food prepared by others and am happy to clean up the kitchen. 

One of my closest friends is now bedridden at home and I went to do some cleaning to lighten the load on his caregiving spouse. I discovered their vacuum cleaner has a broken beater bar belt. The spouse said "Ah, that hasn't worked well for a while. Should I buy a new one?" She has a flip phone and carries an address book because adding speed dial numbers to the phone is beyond her. She is an artist and has created some amazing pieces but in her mind a broken vacuum is simply something to replace and a phone is to dial and receive calls. Pretty sure pretty much any RS member could replace the belt for about $10 and that's what I'll do.

 

I do agree though, that the "mechanical" gene is not widespread.

So agree ,I do not want o get on my soap box here but  here I go, in short  we do not produce hardly anything here anymore , So no manufacturing  ,  No wood shops ,metal  shops In the schools today. so a young person never even get the chance to see if they have Mechanical aptitude .  Most people have no clue about anything if something stops working 90 percent of the time they throw it out , Most people today do not even have a clue how the world works , they do not even know where there food they buy in the store comes from .I had a apprentice one that did not even know where milk comes from seriously  had no clue he thought it just appeared in the store, Life has been made to easy for people today , I saw a video  recently of a father who set up a old rotary phone in his living room  then called his 20 yr old Son and his sons friend in to the room and he asked them to make a call from the phone neither of them could not figure out how to dial a phone number and make a call , I remember when your TV  stopped working my dad would take the Tubes out  we would go to the drug store to test them if one of the tubes were bad they would unlock the bottom of the tube testing unit and sell you a new tube. 

[Handy Don 12,235]

Soapboxes are useful. I appreciate the reply!

I'm struggling with many of the concerns you raised. I worked with and taught my children, as did my Dad during visits. They each took a small, well-equipped toolbox with them to college. (The art major was hanging an exhibit and pulled out her level--the other students were astounded. "You have your own level?!") What I haven't figured out is how to reach and guide the kids that would be great candidates to learn, and earn a good living from, a manual trade.