Jeff-C175 7,203 #1 Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) In another thread @Achto posted a video where a guy modified a set of duckbill pliers into a hand bender for Z-bends on control wires: So even though I have a Z-bender tool 'somewhere', I decided to make a pair like that. Thumbing through my tool box for a suitable set of junk donor pliers I came across these which I've had for ages. No idea where they came from, I know I didn't buy them, they just sort of appeared out of the air. Searched the interwebs for this model of plier and came up with NADA. I never knew what these were for. I thought maybe for twisting wires or something like that. Anyway, I decided to cut a notch in these to make the Z-bend tool and I gotta say, they work perfectly! By offsetting the notch to one side one can make two different depths of z-bend. The pliers would likely still work for their intended purpose, whatever that is / was. Does anyone know what these would have been used for? Edited December 9, 2021 by Jeff-C175 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,818 #3 Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said: Does anyone know what these would have been used for? Look like Z bend pliers to me. No Idea what the original intended purpose was. With no knurling/teeth on the jaws, maybe some type of blacksmithing pliers? Nice job on modifying them for your purpose. Edited December 9, 2021 by Achto 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #4 Posted December 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Gregor said: Was one of my thoughts too, but they don't open wide enough. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #5 Posted December 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Achto said: blacksmithing Sheet metal work? Flange crimper? Edge flattener? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,847 #6 Posted December 9, 2021 I had (may still have somewhere) one of these for years and years. Took me a lotta years to find out what they were for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #7 Posted December 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gregor said: I had (may still have somewhere) one of these for years and years. Took me a lotta years to find out what they were for. Looks like a crimping tool for ducting work. The one I have does several crimps at a time. That one could be used for gutter and downspout work, and for roof flashing. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #8 Posted January 8, 2022 On 12/8/2021 at 9:10 PM, Jeff-C175 said: In another thread @Achto posted a video where a guy modified a set of duckbill pliers into a hand bender for Z-bends on control wires: So even though I have a Z-bender tool 'somewhere', I decided to make a pair like that. Thumbing through my tool box for a suitable set of junk donor pliers I came across these which I've had for ages. No idea where they came from, I know I didn't buy them, they just sort of appeared out of the air. Searched the interwebs for this model of plier and came up with NADA. I never knew what these were for. I thought maybe for twisting wires or something like that. Anyway, I decided to cut a notch in these to make the Z-bend tool and I gotta say, they work perfectly! By offsetting the notch to one side one can make two different depths of z-bend. The pliers would likely still work for their intended purpose, whatever that is / was. Does anyone know what these would have been used for? Yes I know what they are ,you made me cringe when I saw what you did to those LOL , They are used in my trade , I collect them and have many sizes and styles of them, I have a collection of them my earliest ones were made in 1897 , Those are about the smallest version that were offered . I would say those are from the mid 1970s , The correct term for them are Hand Seamers , AKA Tongs or duckbill , from the pictures yours would have a up to 14 gauge seaming capability , those would be used in tight corner hand seaming situations , those would have worked magic on your wheel horse tins , like correcting the the edges of fenders or hoods that have been beaten up over the years. But hey you made good use of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #9 Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jrain said: you made me cringe when I saw what you did to those I'm sorry! 4 minutes ago, Jrain said: But hey you made good use of them And they would surely still work for their intended use I think. So all is not lost! I still don't understand why Mrs. Google can't find the part number, and I can't find it in any of the Crescent tool catalogs I've found. 5 minutes ago, Jrain said: my trade Tin knocker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #10 Posted January 8, 2022 On 12/9/2021 at 11:59 AM, Jeff-C175 said: Looks like a crimping tool for ducting work. The one I have does several crimps at a time. That one could be used for gutter and downspout work, and for roof flashing. Correct hand crimpers those are light gauge single crimp , yes they make them in triple and quad crimp , they are rated by gauge of metal light duty up to 24 gauge and heavy duty version up to 14 gauge sheet metal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #11 Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Jeff-C175 said: I'm sorry! And they would surely still work for their intended use I think. So all is not lost! I still don't understand why Mrs. Google can't find the part number, and I can't find it in any of the Crescent tool catalogs I've found. Tin knocker? Yes I am retired specialty tradesmen Tin knocker 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #12 Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Jrain said: Yes I am retired specialty tradesmen Tin knocker Because Crescent made Tin smith tools under there specialty tool line , they are rare to see not many Crescent specialty tools out there . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #13 Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jrain said: they are rare to see In that case, I'm sorry I messed them up too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #14 Posted January 9, 2022 Theses are the same size hand seamers , they were made in 1910 by Kraeuter & co Newark NJ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #15 Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said: In that case, I'm sorry I messed them up too! Listen you gave them a new Life that called re purpose nothing wrong with that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #16 Posted January 9, 2022 I will tell you this though , about 10 years ago I bought a 1939 CAT D-2 for $600 bought it to restore , well it had the tool box option on the D-2 that were full of tools . Billings tool made the service wrenches for cat . I got 800 for the service tool kit , so if you ever get a billings made wrench and it has a series of numbers on it ,it was made for Cat dozers and they are highly sought after by the CAT guys, they pay good money because they are trying to make a complete service tool set . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #17 Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Jrain said: highly sought after by the CAT guys I'll keep my eye out. There's still quite a few boxes of tools in the outbuilding that I have not gone through yet. I do have some FORD tools that I plan to find a new owner for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #18 Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Jeff-C175 said: I'll keep my eye out. There's still quite a few boxes of tools in the outbuilding that I have not gone through yet. I do have some FORD tools that I plan to find a new owner for. Yea them too , there is a guy in my town that is a big Model T restorer he buys all that early ford stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #19 Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Jrain said: Yea them too , there is a guy in my town that is a big Model T restorer he buys all that early ford stuff Any chance you could get me his contact info? If so, feel free to private message me! Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrain 276 #20 Posted January 9, 2022 12 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said: Any chance you could get me his contact info? If so, feel free to private message me! Thanks. Yea no problem Helms Antique Auto / Service station /body shop . he is located on West Harford street In Milford Pa 18337 , do not know his phone number but I am sure you can google it . dont know where in Jersey you are but he is about 1 mile from NJ Sussex County boarder Rt206 NJ ,Milford bridge straight to his place. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #21 Posted January 12, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 11:10 AM, Jrain said: do not know his phone number but I am sure you can google it Yep! Found it. I'm surprised he doesn't have a website though. I'll be getting in touch with him soon to see if he has any interest in the Ford tools. Thank you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,808 #22 Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 11:11 PM, Jeff-C175 said: Yep! Found it. I'm surprised he doesn't have a website though. I'll be getting in touch with him soon to see if he has any interest in the Ford tools. Thank you! You need to keep the Monkey wrench. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
