Handy fluid reference for pre 1968 tractors

[Lane Ranger 10,992]

I keep this on my garage wall for reference!  A handy thing to have if you have a lot of tractors or just one!

[Pullstart 63,093]

Awesome Lane!  I’ve gotten used to just stuffing 2 qts in the gear jammers.  It does surprise me that the K-141 rigs for example have less oil than the K-181 rigs!

[oliver2-44 9,848]

@Lane RangerThat list says:

  953 engine 1-1/4 qt

1054 engine 2-1/2 qt

 

Same engine and oil pan. Am I missing something. 

 

[Lane Ranger 10,992]

7 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

@Lane RangerThat list says:

  953 engine 1-1/4 qt

1054 engine 2-1/2 qt

 

Same engine and oil pan. Am I missing something. 

 

 

 

Like Kevin mentioned on the 6 HP  Kohler vs 8 HP Kohler.     I think if I recall the  "dipper"  end of the piston rod was longer on those earlier motors and that kept more oil flowing.  

 

 

Maybe one of the other members with more inside motor knowledge will jump in here!     

 

 

[953 nut 55,761]

9 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

@Lane RangerThat list says:

  953 engine 1-1/4 qt

1054 engine 2-1/2 qt

 

Same engine and oil pan. Am I missing something. 

 

I think there may be a typo on the chart @Lane Ranger has on the wall. The 1055 uses the K-241AS which is a small block engine and uses 1.5 quarts of oil. The K-241S used on the 953/1054/1054A is a big block and needs 2 quarts of oil according to the Kohler Service Manual.

Edited December 9, 2021 by 953 nut
fat finger

[Gregor 4,847]

59 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

The 1055 uses the K-214AS 

Just what is a K-214AS ?    Something else I have never heard of?

 

According to what I have found, Both the 953 and the 1055 use the K241. The 953-K241S . The 1055-K241AS. The "A" denotes a special oil pan, (deeper) so will allow for longer dipper, and more oil.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Gregor

[953 nut 55,761]

2 minutes ago, Gregor said:

Just what is a K-214AS

It is a Kohler engine that has a portion of the oil pan below the frame rails and is called a small block. It was used on the 1045 and 1055 to allow the hood to close, a regular K-241S would be too tall. In '66 the hood and steering tower were a bit higher to allow the big block engines to be used.

Here is a picture of the small block courtesy of @WHX??. Smaller oil pan, shorter dipper on the rod and less oil capacity.

[Gregor 4,847]

So is there a K214AS, or is this a typo?

 

1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

The 1055 uses the K-214AS 

 

[WHX?? 49,153]

Required reading on pans Gregor. Teacher says so.  Pinned at the top of engines. Typo... fat fingers Richard? 

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by WHX??

[953 nut 55,761]

3 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Typo... fat fingers Richard?

Fat finger all the way.                should have been K-241AS

13 minutes ago, Gregor said:

So is there a K214AS, or is this a typo?

 

 

 

[Gregor 4,847]

Ok  I think I got it. So the term is actually "BIG BASE block, and SMALL BASE block?"  The blocks themselves are actually the same size?

Almost every day it seems I learn something new on here that I have never heard of, or seen before. I thought the K 2-1-4, was another one of those things. I am easily confused.

[953 nut 55,761]

2 hours ago, Gregor said:

I thought the K 2-1-4, was another one of those things. I am easily confused

Well,           if you went by the Kohler numbering system it would be a four cylinder twenty-one cubic inch K series engine, don't think that ever happened