WHAT? 789 HOURS? on a brand new meter in a month?

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

Had the 175 out for leaf mulching duty this afternoon.

 

Last month I installed a new hour meter.

 

I looked down and saw 789 Hours!  Was going to write the seller and ask him WTF is this? (and hopefully get a new meter) but before I did that I put my multimeter on the hour meter terminals.

 

Guess what?  12.89 Volts!  WTH?

 

Turns out that the ignition switch took a dump and power has been on to the Accessory circuit for the past month or so.

 

Took it apart, some crud inside, cleaned it up and re-assembled it and it's OK now.  I guess the crud was conductive!

 

[ebinmaine 67,671]

Causes creatures to consider  conductive crud is completely conducive to hour meter counting.  

[SylvanLakeWH 25,604]

A Haiku version:

@ebinmaine

 

Causes creatures to

consider conductive crud

hour meter counting 

[SylvanLakeWH 25,604]

On the bright side… you do know the meter works! 

[ebinmaine 67,671]

@SylvanLakeWH

 

Excellent. Absolutely excellent.  

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

hour meter

 

Chronometer !

[ebinmaine 67,671]

6 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

Chronometer !

Niiiiice

[Maxwell-8 4,277]

8 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said:

Turns out that the ignition switch took a dump and power has been on to the Accessory circuit for the past month or so.

I think this is a cause for coil failure on the KT's

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

7 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said:

I think this is a cause for coil failure on the KT's

 

It's possible if it were the IGNITION that was powered all the time, but in this case only the ACCESSORY position was powered (lights and hour meter only).  Ignition had no power going to it.

I imagine if one left the key on with the points closed for 786 hours, that coil would go into meltdown mode! 

Pretty sure the battery would get run down quick also.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Jeff-C175

[johnnymag3 2,520]

Is Hour one syllable or 2 ???     

Edited December 2, 2021 by johnnymag3

[ebinmaine 67,671]

1 hour ago, johnnymag3 said:

Is Hour one syllable or 2 ?

 

 

Yes

[johnnymag3 2,520]

I thought so.........

[WheelHorse520H 708]

On 12/2/2021 at 10:21 AM, johnnymag3 said:

Is Hour one syllable or 2 ???     

That’s a question for Google…not me.

@Jeff-C175 sorry to hear that happened but glad you fixed it. I only read this because the title made me think you used it for 800 hours this month. Who could blame you it’s a Wheel Horse.

Edited December 4, 2021 by WheelHorse520H

[ebinmaine 67,671]

On 12/2/2021 at 2:04 PM, johnnymag3 said:

I thought so.........

For the record. In the modern age we live the word "hour" can be posed as 1 or 2 syllables in written word or spoken word.   

Most often it appears 1 as written, 2 as spoken. 

 

I found several references to the fact that it clearly and inarguably depends on locally spoken dialect whether in Britain or America.  

 

 

[WheelHorse520H 708]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

For the record. In the modern age we live the word "hour" can be posed as 1 or 2 syllables in written word or spoken word.   

Most often it appears 1 as written, 2 as spoken. 

 

I found several references to the fact that it clearly and inarguably depends on locally spoken dialect whether in Britain or America.  

 

 

Interesting. Learn something new every day.

[cleat 6,078]

That reminds me of a short day trip I went on many years ago in my 1993 F-150.

There was conductive crap in a door switch and that made the bing bong that happens when the door is open and the keys in the ignition to go non-stop the entire day.

Nearly drove me nuts.

A cleaning of the switch when I got home fixed it up though.

 

[WheelHorse520H 708]

2 minutes ago, cleat said:

the bing bong that happens when the door is open and the keys in the ignition to go non-stop the entire day.

Just turn the radio up a bit more! At least it wasn’t a door buzzer.

[wallfish 17,014]

11 minutes ago, WheelHorse520H said:

Just turn the radio up a bit more! At least it wasn’t a door buzzer.

Or that horrible car talking crap they used! "The door is ajar, the door is ajar, the door is ajar"

[cleat 6,078]

Ha Ha, yes either one would have been worse.

[rjg854 11,387]

9 minutes ago, wallfish said:

The door is ajar

I'm so confused    how can a door be  'a' "jar"  

[squonk 41,161]

19 minutes ago, wallfish said:

Or that horrible car talking crap they used! "The door is ajar, the door is ajar, the door is ajar"

Back in the late 80's, Chrysler had a alert system in the FWD New Yorkers and Lebarons. "Your engine oil pressure is low. Prompt service is Required!" Ect. There was a system test button if pushed it would go through all 20 some odd warnings. Once pushed you couldn't cancel it. If you turned off the key it would start up where it left off when the key was turned again. Whenever I worked on a new or used car and returned it to the lot, I hit that button and turned the car off so whoever got in the car the next time had to listen to that thing! 

[squonk 41,161]

My favorite: "Your engine coolant temperature is above normal."  "Engine damage may occur!" 

 

But it was polite: " Please fasten your seatbelt." ......... You put on the belt........ "Thank-you!" 

[kpinnc 12,111]

On the hour meter issue, or on phantom voltage drains that destroy batteries and coils- I cable in a disconnect on all my builds. The simple fact is that if you have 3 or more machines, it's difficult to run all of them enough to keep the batteries up. A disconnect not only preserves the battery, it makes working on the tractor easier, because it doesn't matter if a wrench touches the positive terminal. A quick click before use, and you're back in business. 

 

Not to mention swapping batteries between machines takes a few seconds now.

 

 

[RED-Z06 2,221]

Ive seen conductive crud kill alot if breakerless coils in my shop.  On modern engines the coil fires on its own and you ground the primary windings to kill spark..which travels thru the M terminal on the switch and thru to the G ground terminal.  If there is even a slight amount of conductivity from the Accessory or S solenoid 12v terminals thru to the M magneto terminal, you backfeed power into the coil...and the coil is fried

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

7 hours ago, kpinnc said:

On the hour meter issue, or on phantom voltage drains that destroy batteries and coils- I cable in a disconnect on all my builds. The simple fact is that if you have 3 or more machines, it's difficult to run all of them enough to keep the batteries up. A disconnect not only preserves the battery, it makes working on the tractor easier, because it doesn't matter if a wrench touches the positive terminal. A quick click before use, and you're back in business. 

 

Not to mention swapping batteries between machines takes a few seconds now.

 

 

 

I've got a bunch of those I salvaged from dumpstered UPS supplies.