Mustang67ford 234 #1 Posted November 21, 2021 I believe my RD deck is a 42". Blades are old and very worn. They measure roughly 14". Where is the best place to get new blades? Part # 14-4873 for a 3-pack from what I read?? Also, I have been reading about people adding a set af gator blades as well. How do I go about doing this and what gator blades do I get? Is it a big improvement? My deck is in need if a little work and the spindals themselves, the housings, are very worn down. Can't believe it, never seen anything like it before. Just got it with a 414-8 I'm working on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #2 Posted November 21, 2021 The standard RD blade is OE part number 106635. It is a low / medium lift blade. These are the gator blades I used on the 42 rear. They have a little more lift, are used on the side discharge mowers. I am not sure if the make a low lift gator. evil bay purchase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,588 #3 Posted November 21, 2021 @Mustang67ford , @JoeM has good advise there , you also mention a number of other issues , I use a small fine file to touch up my blades , minimal metal removal , quick / easy , oil coat to stop rust. Those worn spindles are bearings , myself , on bearing swap , i upgrade the original " grease " with lucas extra heavy duty , hi temp ,anti sling . wipe out original and replace with same amount of lucas ,no noise or failures . if the deck has not been regularly serviced , it could need more parts , like idler pulley , and spring tensioner slide area , use a 6 point socket , on impact gun to easily remove blade nuts . look on site for related deck rebuilding info . if its too much for you , you might find a local rebuilder , look around , just some ideas , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang67ford 234 #4 Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, JoeM said: The standard RD blade is OE part number 106635. It is a low / medium lift blade. These are the gator blades I used on the 42 rear. They have a little more lift, are used on the side discharge mowers. I am not sure if the make a low lift gator. evil bay purchase With respect to the gator blades, my deck is rear discharge. I believe part number 106636 is for side discharge. I see both part number 106635 and 14-4879 for blades so a little confused. I'm thinking 14-4879 are recycler blades. Will they work better or do I need the baffels insie the dek? Also reading the length is 14.5", but manual says 14". Edited November 21, 2021 by Mustang67ford Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang67ford 234 #5 Posted November 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, peter lena said: @Mustang67ford , @JoeM has good advise there , you also mention a number of other issues , I use a small fine file to touch up my blades , minimal metal removal , quick / easy , oil coat to stop rust. Those worn spindles are bearings , myself , on bearing swap , i upgrade the original " grease " with lucas extra heavy duty , hi temp ,anti sling . wipe out original and replace with same amount of lucas ,no noise or failures . if the deck has not been regularly serviced , it could need more parts , like idler pulley , and spring tensioner slide area , use a 6 point socket , on impact gun to easily remove blade nuts . look on site for related deck rebuilding info . if its too much for you , you might find a local rebuilder , look around , just some ideas , pete Bearings seem fine. Its the actual spindal housings that are chipped and worn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,588 #6 Posted November 21, 2021 @Mustang67ford if the spindles are chipped rotted and in general poor shape , you might just consider searching for a good used set , they are die cast aluminum , they require regular cleaning and regular outside lubrication to kill off the moisture rot . look on site an the net , probably better off replacing all 3 , look around , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,036 #7 Posted November 21, 2021 Keep in mind early decks used blades with 5/8" x 3/4" double-D center holes. They did change to 3/4" center hole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang67ford 234 #8 Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, peter lena said: @Mustang67ford if the spindles are chipped rotted and in general poor shape , you might just consider searching for a good used set , they are die cast aluminum , they require regular cleaning and regular outside lubrication to kill off the moisture rot . look on site an the net , probably better off replacing all 3 , look around , pete Yea, I'll probably keep an eye out for a set. Not an immediate need, but something to look for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang67ford 234 #9 Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gwest_ca said: Keep in mind early decks used blades with 5/8" x 3/4" double-D center holes. They did change to 3/4" center hole. Thanks. The spindals are not smooth on the sides, they have veins. Edited November 21, 2021 by Mustang67ford Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,302 #10 Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mustang67ford said: Thanks. The spindals are not smooth on the sides, they have veins. At this point, a photo would be helpful. You may have spindles from a different brand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #11 Posted November 21, 2021 4 hours ago, JoeM said: These are the gator blades I used on the 42 rear. They have a little more lift, are used on the side discharge mowers. I am not sure if the make a low lift gator. @Mustang67ford Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang67ford 234 #12 Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 1:29 PM, lynnmor said: At this point, a photo would be helpful. You may have spindles from a different brand. Will get a photo and post soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang67ford 234 #13 Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 1:29 PM, lynnmor said: At this point, a photo would be helpful. You may have spindles from a different brand. Will get a photo and post soon. I see both part number 106635 and 14-4879 recycler blades. Will recycler blades work better or do I need the baffels inside the deck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,040 #14 Posted November 22, 2021 You need the recycler insert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,353 #15 Posted November 22, 2021 I have the recycler insert, but I wasn't impressed with the gator blades used with it. I thought the regular high lift blades with the recycler insert did a better job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang67ford 234 #16 Posted November 23, 2021 3 hours ago, squonk said: You need the recycler insert. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,275 #17 Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) @Mustang67ford Or you will have to modified your deck to mulch if you like me can't find a recycler insert Like I did: a link is in my signature Here are some pictures. Edited November 23, 2021 by Maxwell-8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,170 #18 Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Maxwell-8 said: @Mustang67ford Or you will have to modified your deck to mulch if you like me can't find a recycler insert Like I did: a link is in my signature Here are some pictures. Nice work. I'm also a convert to "recycling" the grass (I don't know why it took me so long, but that's another story...) and am fine with the clippings being a bit visible. Lasts only until a good breeze or shower comes along. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,275 #19 Posted November 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, Handy Don said: Nice work. I'm also a convert to "recycling" the grass (I don't know why it took me so long, but that's another story...) and am fine with the clippings being a bit visible. Lasts only until a good breeze or shower comes along. we started with closing off the exit on the side discharge, but the clippings were mindblowing! Now we are happy to say, clippings are very limited! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biged77 113 #20 Posted November 23, 2021 I've been cutting grass with my 42RD for years without the recylcer insert (it had been removed by the PO). Seems to work fine for me but I have no way to compare. The clippings are contained and drop out the back. Cleaning underside is probably easier with the insert, less surface area to catch debris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,040 #21 Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) The insert traps a lot of debris behind it but I take it out a couple times a year. It keeps the underside of the deck pristine. Edited November 23, 2021 by squonk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76c12091520h 3,608 #22 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, squonk said: The insert traps a lot of debris behind it but I take it out a couple times a year. It keeps the underside of the deck pristine. Squonk, do you have the "kickers" installed on the recycler insert? I have used a 42" recycler for 25 yrs, and just added a set of the Gator blades last year. That combination absolutely pulverizes leaves and grass. Best cutting deck Toro or Wheel Horse ever made, as you long as you mow regularly and correctly. Edited November 24, 2021 by 76c12091520h Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,040 #23 Posted November 24, 2021 Yes kickers installed. Lots of debris gets behind them too. I take them off couple times a year to clean them also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,040 #24 Posted November 24, 2021 Here's how much dirt and dust gets trapped with the insert. 99% of it just sweeps right out. And what gets trapped under the kickers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76c12091520h 3,608 #25 Posted November 25, 2021 This is my "sorta" NOS recycler insert. This was part of a dealer buyout from back in May and the story I got is that it was removed from a recycler deck before it ever left the dealership. The downside is that they got sick of having it in the way , so it spent 25+ years outside leaning up against the building covered in dirt and crap from grass clippings accumulating on it.. It will be getting sandblasted and powdercoated prior to installation in a 42" recycler that I am in the process of restoring. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites