moe1965 743 #1 Posted November 18, 2021 I just brought this home but not sure what modle number it is. It has a 12 hp kohler serial number on it is 14132462. If I did my research correctly it's a 1984 engine. I'm guessing the same is true for the tractor. The tag on the tractor is completely wiped out and no numbers are readable . I picked it up for 50.00 was told it ran 3 years ago then parked. My winter project If anyone has a guess what it is let me know. Thanks. 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,050 #2 Posted November 18, 2021 The engine was made in 1984 but the first year for the 312-8 was the 1985 model year. 1985 312-8 model 21-12K801 21 files on this model https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?q=21-12k801&quick=1&type=downloads_file 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,917 #3 Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, moe1965 said: picked it up for 50.00 Nice score! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,387 #4 Posted November 18, 2021 Even if it has a blown motor, 50$ is a great deal. Get it running and it's a steal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,604 #5 Posted November 18, 2021 Nice catch! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #6 Posted November 18, 2021 I agree with @gwest_ca, it appears to be a 312-8, looks to have been repainted, I have never seen the black stipe like that before and the front of the hood red like that on one machine. I don’t need to tell you how much of a deal that is. Looks to be in good shape too, I would have sold it non running for at least $150. Good find. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moe1965 743 #7 Posted November 19, 2021 Definitely repainted I can ser brush strokes all over it. My guess a youngster was given this as a slow gocsrt and put the racing stripe down the center of the hood. I'm definatly going to need to replace all the trans seals any idea what seal part numbers I will need. Thanks again in advance 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #8 Posted November 19, 2021 I would check the transmissions and transaxles page or summon @stevasaurus to help. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,764 #9 Posted November 19, 2021 Heres some information on your transmission. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #10 Posted November 19, 2021 A pre-toro 312 I believe. Nice score, Everything looks to be complete. You may want to use this checklist: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,277 #11 Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) @ebinmaine Already had to search pretty deep for it, I found it to be super useful, could save everybody from buying disasters and saving everybody money. Many thanks for composing that topic. When does a topic get pinned? Edited November 19, 2021 by Maxwell-8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,672 #12 Posted November 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said: Many thanks for composing that topic. When does a topic get pinned? You're quite welcome. There's a lot there but I'd rather ALL the information and sort out what I don't need at the moment. Feel free to post a comment setting your own "search words" so you can find it later. Perhaps @admin can send the whole thread somewhere....? Or just the list? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse520H 708 #13 Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Maxwell-8 said: A pre-toro 312 I believe. I believe so as well, given Toro bought WH out in 1986. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,111 #14 Posted November 19, 2021 I like it! And a $50 price tag? I have hope for the world after all! Nice tractor. 312-8 is a great mid-range worker. It will last decades more with proper care. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,075 #15 Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, gwest_ca said: The engine was made in 1984 but the first year for the 312-8 was the 1985 model year. 1985 312-8 model 21-12K801 21 files on this model https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?q=21-12k801&quick=1&type=downloads_file Look in these for your part numbers… 18 hours ago, moe1965 said: definatly going to need to replace all the trans seals any idea what seal part numbers I will need. I got my seals from Lowell at Wheel Horse Parts and More. Look in the Classifieds in this Forum, under vendors and you will find his site. I just bought seals tor an 1984 transmission and I believe the seals were : INPUT SHAFT SEAL # 100442 / 1461 (need 1 , but I would get at least 2 because I boogered 1 up trying to install, to me it was the hardest 1 to do ) BRAKE SHAFT SEAL ( need 1 ) # 100441 / 1303 AXLE SEALS ( need 2 ) # 100863 / 1263 / 1232 If your boot is bad I would replace that too… should find one on Lowell’s site. Drain the transmission and check for water. Lift the front end up as high as you can to get as much old oil and water past the hump in the casting in the trans as you can. If the trans oil is at a good level I would drive it a little if it’s running to warm it up before you drain it. I have been told on here to flush the transmission with diesel fuel a few times to help clean it by draining oil and water, fill with diesel, drive the tractor / in all gears and reverse around to warm trans, drain, refill repeat a few times, refill with 80-90 wt. gear oil. Here are some pics of my transmission . Last pic is seals and boot I got from Wheel Horse Parts and More. Edited November 19, 2021 by Horse Newbie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,075 #16 Posted November 19, 2021 21 hours ago, gwest_ca said: The engine was made in 1984 but the first year for the 312-8 was the 1985 model year. 1985 312-8 model 21-12K801 21 files on this model https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?q=21-12k801&quick=1&type=downloads_file Look in these for your part numbers… 18 hours ago, moe1965 said: definatly going to need to replace all the trans seals any idea what seal part numbers I will need. I got my seals from Lowell at Wheel Horse Parts and More. Look in the Classifieds in this Forum, under vendors and you will find his site. I just bought seals tor an 1984 transmission and I believe the axle seals were Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,075 #17 Posted November 19, 2021 @moe1965 I find it very useful to come to Red Square and ask for information before I do things to my Horses… it has saved me much grief I believe… 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites