Snow Blower Advice for a 70s C-160 Automatic

[TonyBer 71]

Hello..plowed (and cut) last year with my 70s 8HP and really enjoying both the functionality and hobby.   Came across this 70s C-160 (16hp Kohler) and I'm buying it next week.  I think I'll keep both...not sure but living in Pittsburgh PA I'd like to purchase a snow blower and didn't feel confident with my 8hp and part of the reason buying the 16hp for snow blower attachment.  The soon to be new to me C-160 is an automatic and with hydraulic deck.  So...my question and keep in mind I'm still relatively new to all this;  looking for advice on what to look for in a snowblower attachment to pair up with the C-160 16HP?  If you have any for sale close to PGH let me know as I'll eventually place a wanted AD when I know more of what I want based on the feedback I get.  Stage 1, Stage 2, are the hydraulic lines used on some or all?  Thanks!!!! 

[squonk 41,040]

Single stage tall shoot. The 2 stages are too darn heavy! Make sure if you find a blower you get the lift rod for it.

 

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,035]

Here are the plug and play single-stage models

 

1974 model 6-6213 - (First model to include 8-0221 extensions without the front straight return - just a flat plate)

1975 model 6-6214 - (First model to include 8-0221 [103552 replaced by 93-1617 and 93-1617-01] side extensions with the front straight return. First model to have a cable spool on chute rotating crank) Chute crank support decal 104461.

1976 model 6-6215 ------ Chute crank support decal 104461. This one -

1976 model 66-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one are likely identical. The model number format changed.

1977 model 76-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. This one

1978 model 86-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one

1979 model 96-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one may be all the same. They started using a different model number for each model year.

1980 model 06-42ST01 - (Last 42" model to use 4 grooved rollers for the chute)

1981-82 model 06-42ST02 - (First model to use plastic collar for the chute but was a retrofit for older models. Last model to use wheels)

1983 model 06-42ST03 - (First model to use skids)

1984-87 model 06-42ST04 - (Last model to use a 3/4" diameter driveshaft)

1987-89 model 06-42ST05 - (First model to use a 7/8" diameter driveshaft)

1990 model 06-42ST06 - (Last model to use a cable to turn the chute)

1991-93 model 06-42ST07 - (First model with tall chute retained by 3 individual grooved retainers)

1993-2001 model 79360 - (2001 and earlier will fit 2002-2007 with kit 105-1503)

2002-2007 model 79362

[Ed Kennell 38,034]

Wow, what a great looking C-160.       I agree with Mike, a single stage tall chute will work great on the 160.   And make sure you get the lift rod and flag and the angle control lever.

 

[EB-80/8inPA 1,634]

4 hours ago, squonk said:

 

 

Are those blower wheels factory?

[Ed Kennell 38,034]

59 minutes ago, EB-80/8inPA said:

5 hours ago, squonk said:

 

Are those blower wheels factory?

No, those are Squonk wheels.

[wallfish 16,986]

10 hours ago, squonk said:

The 2 stages are too darn heavy!

Not for a hydro lift tractor they ain't. (Unless the plan is to switch implements on the tractor) I love the 2 stage compared to running the single stage but also have the HP to run it at 20 hp. They work OK on lower hp too but it's all about performance for me.

A16hp will definitely perform well with a single stage as that's what the setup was before the 2 stage came into play.

To answer the question about hydraulics. The hydraulics on that tractor is for lifting/lowering implements only. None of the attachments will use the tractor's hydraulics to operate them. Attachments are driven by belt

Edited November 12, 2021 by wallfish

[EB-80/8inPA 1,634]

1 hour ago, Ed Kennell said:

No, those are Squonk wheels.

Nice. @squonk

Is there a thread somewhere illustrating the design? A pic?

[rjg854 11,353]

Fairly easy build, use the skid as your pattern for the slots in a piece of flat stock, drill a hole to weld in a piece of round shaft for your axle for whatever wheel your using, drill a hole for an R clip, and that's pretty much it.

Edited November 12, 2021 by rjg854
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[TonyBer 71]

What a great forum!  Thank you all.  

[TonyBer 71]

On 11/12/2021 at 10:19 AM, gwest_ca said:

Here are the plug and play single-stage models

 

1974 model 6-6213 - (First model to include 8-0221 extensions without the front straight return - just a flat plate)

1975 model 6-6214 - (First model to include 8-0221 [103552 replaced by 93-1617 and 93-1617-01] side extensions with the front straight return. First model to have a cable spool on chute rotating crank) Chute crank support decal 104461.

1976 model 6-6215 ------ Chute crank support decal 104461. This one -

1976 model 66-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one are likely identical. The model number format changed.

1977 model 76-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. This one

1978 model 86-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one

1979 model 96-42ST01 - Chute crank support decal 104461. and this one may be all the same. They started using a different model number for each model year.

1980 model 06-42ST01 - (Last 42" model to use 4 grooved rollers for the chute)

1981-82 model 06-42ST02 - (First model to use plastic collar for the chute but was a retrofit for older models. Last model to use wheels)

1983 model 06-42ST03 - (First model to use skids)

1984-87 model 06-42ST04 - (Last model to use a 3/4" diameter driveshaft)

1987-89 model 06-42ST05 - (First model to use a 7/8" diameter driveshaft)

1990 model 06-42ST06 - (Last model to use a cable to turn the chute)

1991-93 model 06-42ST07 - (First model with tall chute retained by 3 individual grooved retainers)

1993-2001 model 79360 - (2001 and earlier will fit 2002-2007 with kit 105-1503)

2002-2007 model 79362

So I found this really close to my home and its none of the models listed.  Its is also a short chute.  Would this fit my C160 and could I change out the chute if I can find a long chute? It is a model 6 3211.  Looks pretty clean and complete.  

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,035]

6-3211 fits the small Lawn Ranger so no.

 

[TonyBer 71]

Thank you  gwest_ca-(File Mod)

 

[TonyBer 71]

I requested the model number from this seller but his ad says came off a C160 which is the same as my model.  Notice its the short chute which I assume doesn't throw as far....can I change that out with a long chute?  Does it just bolt up or is it more complicated than that?  Thanks again!

[Ed Kennell 38,034]

36 minutes ago, TonyBer said:

 Does it just bolt up

Not quite.    The main difference is the short chute has the cable drive and the long chute has the worm gear drive to rotate the chute.  You almost need a donor tall chute to get the parts.

I have had both and they both do a decent job.     The cable rotator can be a bit finiky to adjust.

[wallfish 16,986]

Go grab it if it's a decent price. It'll fit your tractor. A short chute is a good introduction piece because they're usually less expensive and more plentiful. If blowing snow works for you and your tractor you can always upgrade later on and sell that one.

Ask if they have the lift assist spring that connects to that eye bolt on the flag. Not a big deal if they don't though, you can get a spring at any good hardware store. Get the weights too if you don't have any. Adding tire chains is a plus

Typically the edges of the auger will be bent from from rocks, stones, hitting things and such. Especially in the center where the snow exits the auger. You can use a big crescent wrench to straighten them out which is better than hammering on it. 

[TonyBer 71]

This one above with short chute I found yesterday and it sold today.  Sounds like I need to be patient and just wait for a model number that is plug and play with preferably the tall chute.  These are hard to come by or so it seems.  

 

[rjg854 11,353]

Being the time of year it is they are in high demand and usually bring the best price.  Be patient, they are out there.

[TonyBer 71]

This one is out there...a little further than I want to drive but its south of PGH...looks pretty clean.  Guy is checking model number to see if it would fit my c160.  Now I'm obsessed lol.  Too new?

[wallfish 16,986]

It will fit. GO get it

[TonyBer 71]

I got that one...in last picture...complete with all components and spring.  Pickup Thanksgiving week.  Thanks again all!

 

[Ed Kennell 38,034]

Get the belt and any spares he may have.   Chains and weights?

[TonyBer 71]

Ok folks, with your advice help and direction my C-160 is ready to throw some snow.  Fun adventure….picked up this clean snow thrower from VA (????) on a business road trip.  Fits like a glove.  Bet we don’t get any snow in Pgh now lol!   Thnx all.  Great forum!!!

[Ed Kennell 38,034]

That is one sweet snow machine Tony.   

     To be correct, the side extension wings should be turned over.    That small leading edge will then cut into the snow and the larger angled plate will push the snow into the auger.

[Handy Don 12,170]