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[squonk 41,161]

37 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Do you have a part number for a good usable quality mini clamp of the correct size that doesn't leave a long "tail"?

 

I've had a few tries and they always strip out with very minimal effort. 

 

 

They are cheapie clamps out there. The clamps in the Harbor Fright assortment are notorious for stripping and breaking

 

[ebinmaine 67,672]

2 minutes ago, squonk said:

They are cheapie clamps out there. The clamps in the Harbor Fright assortment are notorious for stripping and breaking

 

Haven't even tried those. 

 

Would have been either Napa or carquest store brand...

I don't recollect which. 

[squonk 41,161]

I've had to really "Horse Down" (no pun intended) a stainless band clamp to strip one.

[Stormin 9,981]

 If you use what we call Jubilee clips. The type I think you are calling band clips, be carefull what they are made of. The cheap ones tend to be aluminum type alloy. They strip just by looking at them. Stainless are the best IMO.

[1940willys 120]

Dielectric Grease on fuel Line, that's a new one for me! I agree with the thought, always use  some type of clamp on a fuel line. A leak in the fuel system no matter how small will result in disaster eventually! Weather the ignition is from the engine itself or an outside source. A good day could turn into to a bad day in a hurry. Here is a weird one, Had a welch plug leak on a double pumper secondary fuel bowl. Big Block Chevy

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

33 minutes ago, 1940willys said:

Dielectric Grease on fuel Line

 

I will sometimes use petroleum jelly or even motor oil to get them to slip on more easily, but one must keep in mind that this means they would also slip off more easily.

 

The fact that one can't easily PULL a hose off a barbed fitting doesn't really mean much.  It's kinda like those "Chinese finger cuffs" that tighten more the harder you pull.  But you can PUSH them off easily.  Pressure inside a fuel line would PUSH, not PULL.

[squonk 41,161]

50 minutes ago, 1940willys said:

Dielectric Grease on fuel Line, that's a new one for me! I agree with the thought, always use  some type of clamp on a fuel line. A leak in the fuel system no matter how small will result in disaster eventually! Weather the ignition is from the engine itself or an outside source. A good day could turn into to a bad day in a hurry. Here is a weird one, Had a welch plug leak on a double pumper secondary fuel bowl. Big Block Chevy

Happened all the time on Quadrajets. Had to epoxy the plugs.

[1940willys 120]

 Squonk ya that's what I did.I used that JB Weld as I find it to be Somewhat fuel Proof. We'll see how long that repair last's? Now when YOU did that repair, did you remove the leaking welch plug and Butter up the new one and install it? I just buttered mine up on the outside of it. 

[ebinmaine 67,672]

8 minutes ago, squonk said:

Happened all the time on Quadrajets. Had to epoxy the plugs.

Fellow I knew had 8 qts of gas/oil mix in a 350 that held 4.5. 

Found that plug seeping gas down through the intake. 

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Quadrajets

 

IMHO, the only good Quadrajet is in a scrap pile.

 

[ebinmaine 67,672]

1 minute ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

IMHO, the only good Quadrajet is in a scrap pile.

 

They ran good when they ran good. 

 

I have a leaning preference toward Carter AFB or it's cousin Edelbrock. 

My Ford 300 will be getting a Carter in the spring. 

[edgro 677]

The squeeze clamps are for idiot proof assembly line installation. When installed on the correct size hose they work. 

[squonk 41,161]

7 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

IMHO, the only good Quadrajet is in a scrap pile.

 

Not when you know how to set them up . Lots of guys would loosen the secondary air valve spring thinking they would get more power. When they needed to tighten the spring to keep them from opening too fast and too far. I used to get Motorhomes to light up the tires back in the day.

Edited November 12, 2021 by squonk

[1940willys 120]

Better than Light'n the Fuel Fumes from failing fuel system clamps and hose! And that is what this thread is about.

 

[peter lena 8,639]

@1940willys that dielectric grease is in the , super lube family of products , used it for years at work ,makes vinyl and rubber products  last. and makes dissimilar connections easier . used it on every insert to hose,  also on the fuel check valve , installed on the vertical hose lift to the fuel pump , perfect spot for it . right along  lower side of pump , about a 2" hose from pump intake to top of check valve . instant hold of fuel right there , instant starts . every thing i suggest , i use and have lots of time on it , so i know it works .  pete

[1940willys 120]

I use it in Electric / ignition situations all the time. Never thought to use it in Fuel Situations?

 

[roadapples 6,983]

2 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

IMHO, the only good Quadrajet is in a scrap pile.

 

You must have them confused with Holley. They only run good when the butterflies are vertical....

[peter lena 8,639]

@1940willys  not talking about a gob of grease , done this many times , always looking to improve an area.do a sealed bearing regrease that scares the hell out of people, do what ever you like , pete 

[squonk 41,161]

2 hours ago, roadapples said:

You must have them confused with Holley. They only run good when the butterflies are vertical....

I used to call Holley's "Flood O Matics" 

Had a Dodge 360 motorhome. It's Thermo-quad Carb melted. Customer bought a Holley replacement. I did not want to install it but the boss insisted. After installation I drove it down the interstate with the engine cover off so I could keep my eye on it. Sure enough, Gas started pouring out all over the engine! 

[1940willys 120]

I got some Demons too!

[peter lena 8,639]

@Sparky got the line from  CUTTING PRO, INC , on line , if you get some, get the matching spring clamps , btw , also installed a fuel check valve on that new line , perfect spot is the rising fuel line to the fuel pump input , cut about a 2 " line down from the pump to the check valve , that way the valve sits vertically and works like it should , always a standing fuel delivery for a quick start . it starts so fast its just a good set up . just got in a new ignition switch wire harness , going in tomorrow .  let me know how you make out , pete

[lynnmor 7,309]

6 hours ago, squonk said:

Not when you know how to set them up . Lots of guys would loosen the secondary air valve spring thinking they would get more power. When they needed to tighten the spring to keep them from opening too fast and too far.

 

I had a Quadrajet working so good on my 442 W30 that someone stole it at the dealership while it was there for service.  The insurance paid for a new one, but I couldn't quite make it work as well as the one the thief had.  It is a fine line adjusting a Quadrajet for drag racing.

[ebinmaine 67,672]

On 11/12/2021 at 7:44 AM, squonk said:

I don't care how low a pressure these things run at. Clamp it.

Ok

 

On 11/12/2021 at 10:25 AM, Jeff-C175 said:

The fact that one can't easily PULL a hose off a barbed fitting doesn't really mean much.  It's kinda like those "Chinese finger cuffs" that tighten more the harder you pull.  But you can PUSH them off easily.  Pressure inside a fuel line would PUSH, not PULL

 

 

 

Mike and Jeff I want you 2 peeps to know I did an expeeeriment with the Sten's blue clear ish line and a dental pick.  

@Achto you'll wanna read this too.  

 

Ya see I had to remove the fuel hose from the carb on the C160 Auto and I thought to myself.... I youghtta see how the line is massaged off from the top instead of just bull strength pulled down.  

I stuck the pick inside the line on the carb barbed fitting. Pulled down with gentle pressure at several different points around the barb. 

 

 

Well now.  

Dat 💩 were VERY easy to pull off from the outside edges!!

 

@squonk meister I gotta give ya credit. 

 

USE CLAMPS. 

 

I ordered a bunch off the interwebs for stock. I'll be adding them to all our machines. 

 

[ebinmaine 67,672]

Lookitt what showed up here today. 

 

 

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

3 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Lookitt what showed up here today. 

 

Lifetime supply!