no ethanol debris

[peter lena 8,639]

just did replacement fuel rated vinyl gas line in my horse , replaced the existing one , because it was never fuel rated , never had any issues . bottom line , my carb bowl was spotless , use 2 gas filters , one close to tank , another  close to carb . from what i have seen of fuel bowl debris , is the break down of the rubber hose , and dirty tanks . only add  STA-BIL  to my gas , no issues . from what i have checked on my 3 horses , there is no dirt or debris in my fuel bowls , and they run like they should . my new fuel line is rated for gasoline , and its clear , also used dielectric grease on my fuel filter slide in to hose , much easier , squeeze type clamps , no leaks . used cable wrap to protect the hose , and routed thru hang loops . also added a fuel line check valve close to carb , in a vertical  position . just my own experience , but when i see a picture of a  dirty carb bowl , it does not have to stay that way . pete

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,345]

Where did you buy the fuel line? I purchased some semi-clear line from NAPA but it’s outside diameter is smaller than the old school black rubber line and my squeeze clamps don’t “clamp it”.

[squonk 41,161]

I throw squeeze clamps in the trash

[ebinmaine 67,672]

On 11/11/2021 at 4:36 PM, Sparky said:

Where did you buy the fuel line? I purchased some semi-clear line from NAPA but it’s outside diameter is smaller than the old school black rubber line and my squeeze clamps don’t “clamp it”.

 

On 11/11/2021 at 4:59 PM, squonk said:

I throw squeeze clamps in the trash

 

 

I don't use any clamps at all. 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

SCRATCH THAT

 

I've ordered some decent mini clamps.  

 

See my later post...

 

 

 

I use Sten's blue clear hose. 

 

 

@peter lena

Can you snap a pic of the fuel filter and check valve near the carb?

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by ebinmaine
Correct info.

[Achto 27,609]

29 minutes ago, squonk said:

I throw squeeze clamps in the trash

 

I used to have the same theory.

 

Have you ever tried to pull a hose off from a good barb fitting? Most times I have to slit the hose to get it off. With this knowledge I have come to the conclusion that a spring/squeeze clamp is more than enough to hold the fuel line on and have never had an issue. Plus they look a little cleaner to me than a screw type clamp.

Edited November 11, 2021 by Achto

[ebinmaine 67,672]

1 minute ago, Achto said:

Have you ever tried to pull a hose off from a good barb fitting? Most times I have to slit the hose to get it off. With this knowledge I have come to the conclusion that a spring clamp is more than enough to hold the fuel line on and have never had an issue

That's the same logic I use to stop using a clamp altogether. 

[squonk 41,161]

I hate futzing with those spring clamps.   No way I would not use a clamp on a fuel line.

Edited November 11, 2021 by squonk

[roadapples 6,983]

1 hour ago, Sparky said:

Where did you buy the fuel line? I purchased some semi-clear line from NAPA

I use the clear blue/purple line. Supposed to be good for 100% ethanol. Bought a 25ft roll off of ebay. A to Z has it also...

[ebinmaine 67,672]

12 minutes ago, squonk said:

I hate futzing with those spring clamps.   No way I would not use a clamp on a fuel line.

 

I've used small zip ties. 

I did try to get some itty-bitty clamps and have had very poor luck. 

 

This Sten's line is so tight on the barbs one has to really force it. 

With the 1 to 3 lbs of pressure or less we're at it just isn't going anywhere even with no holding assistance.  

 

[pfrederi 17,741]

You have to be careful some of the inexpensive filters and shut off valves sold on ebay are really metric 6mm and 1/4" line will be a loose fit....6mm = 0.23622047244

[Achto 27,609]

35 minutes ago, squonk said:

I hate futzing with those spring clamps. 

 

A good set of linemans pliers works great for spring clamps.

 

[peter lena 8,639]

looks like someone put a line blocker related to @  on this site , can't  get around it and deliberately  stopping my reply , not worth it , pete 

[ebinmaine 67,672]

@peter lena

Works here. Maybe a temporary thing. 

[Jeff-C175 7,202]

@peter lena  works for me too...

 

[peter lena 8,639]

@roadapples got it back , got the fuel line on line at a mower site . like 10 ft for 6$  , 1/4" ID . also got the matching very small spring clips . agree with the very tight fit , slide on clip first , dielectric grease the gas filter entry / exit , actually goes on pretty easy . squeeze clamp on .referring to problem  when i went to @  a member there was a solid horizontal line coming out of it , spoiling the reply. agree with the tight fitting hose to filter fit . also did my generator and snow blower , been on a tear , only 1 horse left to convert ,  maybe this week end . pete

[EB-80/8inPA 1,655]

2 hours ago, Achto said:

 

2 hours ago, Achto said:

 

I used to have the same theory.

 

I always assumed the squeeze clamp was a manufacturing cost reduction tactic inferior to a good screwing.  Perhaps I need to rethink this.

FWIW, The first time I remember encounting the squeeze clamp was on my ‘72 240Z.  How I wish I still had that fair lady!

Edited November 12, 2021 by EB-80/8inPA

[AHS 1,440]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

I hate futzing with those spring clamps.   No way I would not use a clamp on a fuel line.

Yes sir!!😀

[AHS 1,440]

11 minutes ago, EB-80/8inPA said:

I always assumed the squeeze clamp was a manufacturing cost reduction tactic inferior to a good screwing.  Perhaps I need to rethink this.

FWIW, The first time I remember encounting the squeeze clamp was on my ‘72 240Z.  How I wish I still had that fair lady!

I used to have a friend that had a 300Z with a digital dash. I know my friend would like to have the 300z back!! 

[peter lena 8,639]

@ebinmaine  think it was internet related , automatically went on a clean up , and its gone , went to   CUTTING PRO INC , for that hose and matching spring  clamps, lineman's plyers  are best for those clamps , strong flat / square , give you a secure grab. pete

[Handy Don 12,237]

25 minutes ago, peter lena said:

@ebinmaine  think it was internet related , automatically went on a clean up , and its gone , went to   CUTTING PRO INC , for that hose and matching spring  clamps, lineman's plyers  are best for those clamps , strong flat / square , give you a secure grab. pete

I have a set of vise grips with a long snout and wide-ish jaws but if I didn't I'd be grabbing the lineman's pliers for sure. 

[johnnymag3 2,520]

I like to use whatever is there when Wheel Horse put it together. As mentioned...there is literally no pressure, so why worry? They make metric and standard spring clamps if you go a different route with hose type....Or you can use the screw clamp...like a metric/adjustable crescent wrench....One size fits all or nothing...

 

john     

[squonk 41,161]

About 20 yrs. ago I was working at Napa. In about the span of 2 months 2 major accounts had their shops burn to the ground. Why ? Because a fuel line clamp was removed and gravity took over and fuel started dripping. One shop a water heater kicked on 2 rooms away. The other was the fumes and a hot drop light. Last year another shop burned up (just re-opened) from gas dripping. Last month another one went up but it may be electrical related. 

 

I don't care how low a pressure these things run at. Clamp it.

Edited November 12, 2021 by squonk

[ebinmaine 67,672]

4 minutes ago, squonk said:

Clamp

Do you have a part number for a good usable quality mini clamp of the correct size that doesn't leave a long "tail"?

 

I've had a few tries and they always strip out with very minimal effort. 

 

 

[peter lena 8,639]

@ebinmaine  while screw clamps are ok with a bigger size , they just don't  work well in the smallest sizes . take a small piece of the fuel hose with you to the local h/w store and match up what you need , again a wider flat jaw plyer is best for those spring clamps .had my own problems with small clamps , you can't  get rough with them . slow and steady on installation , pete

[squonk 41,161]

#4 hose clamp. All stainless including the housing and screw.  Napa # 705-1172 $2.40 ea. ( I used to sell all stainless clamps to Goulds Pumps)

 

 Stainless band zinc plated housing and screw 505-1204  $1.89 Ea.