ebinmaine 68,136 #1 Posted November 8, 2021 Is there a Napa or aftermarket part number available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,287 #2 Posted November 8, 2021 Parts tree KH271030 https://www.partstree.com/parts/kohler-271030-s/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkie333 265 #3 Posted November 8, 2021 I think my gaskets on my Kohler 16 for that job is thicker than this one shown-----If I was going to use this one I would use at least 2--IMHO 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,848 #4 Posted November 8, 2021 Interesting. Seems Kohler may have used different carb to block gaskets over time. Some i have are almost 1/4" thick obviously to reduce heat transfer.. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,848 #5 Posted November 8, 2021 More like this one. What spec number is you engine 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,717 #6 Posted November 8, 2021 I just cut mine out of gasket material. Always have a roll or 5 laying around. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,287 #7 Posted November 8, 2021 Thicker gasket is to prevent vapor lock if it has been an issue. Either one will work. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,136 #8 Posted November 8, 2021 3 hours ago, pfrederi said: More like this one. What spec number is you engine I have to double check for sure. Funny thing is I've seen both over the years like you folks. My 1974 c-160 when I first got it had the thin gasket and it didn't look like it had ever been off. This 1975 has most certainly been off and reinstalled during the restoration 12 plus years ago. Of course I don't know what the logic was of using the thicker gasket. It was restored by a former Wheel Horse dealer so maybe he had a preference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,287 #9 Posted November 8, 2021 Same gasket on all the big blocks. You can use either. No need for spec no's. Kohler shows only the 2 gaskets used. No need to overthink this. The thicker gasket is just a heat insulator 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,848 #10 Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, squonk said: Same gasket on all the big blocks. You can use either. No need for spec no's. Kohler shows only the 2 gaskets used. No need to overthink this. The thicker gasket is just a heat insulator interesting that there are a whole string of variation numbers for each of the 2 part numbers...Wonder why Kohler decided to have two different ones... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,136 #11 Posted November 8, 2021 Just out of curiosity has any of you experience vapor lock on a Kohler single cylinder? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkie333 265 #12 Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, pfrederi said: More like this one. What spec number is you engine Now that is what I'm talking about----- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkie333 265 #13 Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Just out of curiosity has any of you experience vapor lock on a Kohler single cylinder? No sir--Not me--------- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,287 #14 Posted November 8, 2021 They had issues with some applications getting the carb hot. Look at JD and CC and some of their enclosures to keep the noise down. Not as much air flowing thru. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,848 #15 Posted November 8, 2021 I have thick on the M-16 thin on 2 K-341s that I can see right now. No differences ever noted in performance... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,289 #16 Posted November 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Achto said: I just cut mine out of gasket material. Always have a roll or 5 laying around. I do it that way as well, always have gaskets in stock Still waiting on axle seals from my Toro-dealer, order placed three weeks ago... If I always have to wait so long for a gasket, and have to pay $20... Give me that gasketpaper any day! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,717 #17 Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Maxwell-8 said: Give me that gasketpaper any day! A set of these are very handy to have when your making gaskets. https://www.amazon.com/Spurtar-Hollow-Leather-Gaskets-Storage/dp/B07L1GVK2T/ref=asc_df_B07L1GVK2T/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416961788108&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6173340204310637865&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019452&hvtargid=pla-663606081241&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=96633963769&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416961788108&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6173340204310637865&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019452&hvtargid=pla-663606081241 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,717 #18 Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, pfrederi said: I have thick on the M-16 thin on 2 K-341s that I can see right now. No differences ever noted in performance. Not that there is a need for it in a stock application but . I wonder if you would notice a difference buy installing a tube between the carb and engine, kind of like a high rise manifold? I installed a long intake manifold on a Harley once and it cooled the fuel air mixture so much that the intake would actually frost up at cruising speed even in 80+ degree weather. More oxygen in cold air than hot air. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,136 #19 Posted November 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, Achto said: A set of these are very handy to have when your making gaskets Very cool tool set. I've used a piece of coppah pipe to punchify a 3/4-ish hole too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,472 #20 Posted November 9, 2021 China Freight has a similar set that has a 1/4" hex at the top - chuck it up in a cordless drill and push it into the material. Slow speed RPM leaves a decent hole. Bill 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xearl 131 #21 Posted November 9, 2021 I put on a new carb and the thinner gasket and the result was the throttle would not move . I installed the thicker one and the throttle shaft had enough clearance . 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,136 #22 Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 9:54 AM, sparkie333 said: gaskets on my Kohler 16 for that job is thicker On 11/8/2021 at 9:55 AM, pfrederi said: Interesting. Seems Kohler may have used different carb to block gaskets over time. Some i have are almost 1/4" thick obviously to reduce heat transfer.. A new development... Turns out the "gasket" I have is actually a piece of plastic with a standard (fiber?) gasket on each side. Perhaps a PO had an inkling of an issue? Who's to say... Just thought you folks would find that interesting. I'll reinstall it as it was but with 2 new gaskets. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,848 #23 Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: A new development... Turns out the "gasket" I have is actually a piece of plastic with a standard (fiber?) gasket on each side. Perhaps a PO had an inkling of an issue? Who's to say... Just thought you folks would find that interesting. I'll reinstall it as it was but with 2 new gaskets. Probably an after market copy of the thicker gasket. I have a couple like you describe came in Stens gasket sets for some big blocks... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,847 #24 Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 8:55 AM, pfrederi said: Interesting. Seems Kohler may have used different carb to block gaskets over time. Some i have are almost 1/4" thick obviously to reduce heat transfer.. I just put my 16 back together. The VERY thick gasket is what I have. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,287 #25 Posted November 10, 2021 Many heat insulator gaskets are plastic (phenolic) with 2 thin gaskets on each side. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
