SylvanLakeWH 25,600 #1 Posted November 7, 2021 I’m thinking there’s some changes afoot in the tire world and they aren’t giving us more… Anyone notice same thing??? New Carlisle Turf Masters 23-9.5-12 on both tractors. Same air pressure. Right tractor tires bought new 4 years ago. Left bought new this year… Older ones 1” higher and 1/2” wider… Fronts same time frame only Turf Savers 16-6.5-8. Left tractor older tires 3/4” taller and 1/2” wider… 2 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,596 #2 Posted November 7, 2021 First I'd heard o that with a Carlisle. Certainly something to keep in mind. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,600 #3 Posted November 7, 2021 I’m just curious… seems odd and wondering if others have noticed… 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,741 #4 Posted November 7, 2021 Welcome to the new world...ask your wife about groceries. A box of crackers used to be a pound now 13.7 ozs. Remember when coffee came in 1 lb cans... Mayonnaise was a qt not 30 ozs.. etc etc etc 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,905 #5 Posted November 7, 2021 Same width rims too? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,600 #6 Posted November 7, 2021 Yes 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,130 #7 Posted November 7, 2021 I recently sold another set of these Carlisle ags I had on hand here. Sold 'em because they weren't as tall or wide as this set... and didn't have the American flag or made in the USA stamped on the sidewall. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #8 Posted November 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Welcome to the new world...ask your wife about groceries. A box of crackers used to be a pound now 13.7 ozs. Remember when coffee came in 1 lb cans... Mayonnaise was a qt not 30 ozs.. etc etc etc You forgot bag of chips... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,308 #9 Posted November 7, 2021 23-9.5-12 should measure 23" high by 9.5 inches wide and fit a 12" wheel. If you buy a container of ice cream it should contain exactly what is stated on the label. I would measure and contact the dealer and see if he has tires the correct size. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,741 #10 Posted November 7, 2021 Or more importantly Ice Cream... Used to be a half gallon now 1.5 qts in a similar container... They think we are stupid...but we really do not have a choice... 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #11 Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, lynnmor said: If you buy a container of ice cream it should contain exactly what is stated on the label. Oh... you mean sugar... right...? Not to mention... Sodium bisulfite. ... Isinglass. ... Ammonium sulfate. ... Propylene glycerol Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,308 #12 Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said: Oh... you mean sugar... right...? Not to mention... Sodium bisulfite. ... Isinglass. ... Ammonium sulfate. ... Propylene glycerol Don No, I mean it should contain a total volume of assorted chemicals of 1.5 quarts, if the label says 1.5 quarts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #13 Posted November 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, lynnmor said: it should contain a total volume of assorted chemicals of 1.5 quarts, if the label says 1.5 quarts. I was unaware that was ever the case... @lynnmor... at least with the many products I have bought from every type of store. Even with various laws in place... as everyone knows.. on this planet, there is a lot of leeway with what manufacturers get away with... but maybe our planets are different? Going back to mine now... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,828 #14 Posted November 8, 2021 Seems to be the luck of the draw if they run tall or wide. Especially when we buy these things sight unseen offa fleabay or whatever. My guess is like every thing else manufacturers are trying to use less raw materials. These are supposed the be 23-10.5-12 but look at how they stack up against 9.5 ?? orginals. About 3 year old ag tires. 31 minutes ago, lynnmor said: 23-9.5-12 should measure 23" high by 9.5 inches wide and fit a 12" wheel. If you buy a container of ice cream it should contain exactly what is stated on the label. I would measure and contact the dealer and see if he has tires the correct size. Not that i don't like ice cream Lynn but what has that got to do with tires? Good thread Sylvia 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #15 Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Not that i don't like ice cream Lynn but what has that got to do with tires? Nothing... that is why I tried to make light of it... be a little facetious... My mistake... Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,596 #16 Posted November 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Not that i don't like ice cream Lynn but what has that got to do with tires? Ummm. It's. Well it's ice cream. Jimbo do those ag tires measure a full 23" in height? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #17 Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: Ummm. It's. Well it's ice cream. Jimbo do those ag tires measure a full 23" in height? Well... taking a ride on my Wheel Horse while licking an ice cream cone from a scoop from my 1.45 quart container of ice cream would do nothing but put a smile on my face... Don 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #18 Posted November 8, 2021 But... finding out that my tires are smaller than what they are supposed to be would piss me off... Don 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,600 #19 Posted November 8, 2021 My original thought is, like many of the off post items mentioned above, that perhaps the tire industry is reducing raw material usage / costs by reduced size of the end product…but marketing it as the same… that’s different than reducing volume, making the bag look the same size with air, but correctly noting the change in volume of the real product (chips etc.). 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #20 Posted November 8, 2021 Well sir... I can say... I have been looking at tires lately... and I can definitely attest to what you are saying. One thing I have noticed, on some tire sites... is that they list "actual size" further down in the listing... I think this applies to what you have shown us here... Don 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,884 #21 Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said: New Carlisle Turf Masters 23-9.5-12 on both tractors. Same air pressure. Right tractor tires bought new 4 years ago. Left bought new this year… What is the actual size of each? I do have to say the one on the right looks big for that size. How about the sidewall? Still say made in USA? Randy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #22 Posted November 8, 2021 At a show 3-4 years ago a guy had all kinds of Carlisle tires at great prices. None of which made in the USA... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 812 #23 Posted November 8, 2021 i always bought carlisle tires because they were made in USA. proudly stamped on the sidewall. i'm a blue collar guy and work in manufacturing, so i figured i should support some tire guy at carlisle like me. the deestones were always smaller than carlisle. much cheaper too. than the last time i bought carlisle they said in made in china UGH!!@#$%^&!! guess where carlisle puts that info? on the bead of the tire. so once it is mounted on a rim you cannot see it. sneaky devils. plus the price is way cheaper than before when made in USA. i'd rather pay more and get real sizes. mike in mass. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,600 #24 Posted November 8, 2021 15 hours ago, RandyLittrell said: What is the actual size of each? I do have to say the one on the right looks big for that size. How about the sidewall? Still say made in USA? Randy Verified Country of origin: USA made China Made Rear Rear 23.75x10. 22.5x9 Front. Front 16.5x6.75. 15.75x6.5 So yes, big difference… 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,884 #25 Posted November 8, 2021 Thanks, that sucks! Randy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
